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Messages - eLK

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PC Players / Re: Yet another Tracker Module Decoder - MPPWC
« on: June 09, 2013, 19:31:51 »
Okay, it plays - yes it is able to play the AMS files - but did you listen them? It plays totaly wrong! Try e.g. Necrophilia.ams or hullun päiväkirja.ams which are the demo songs of Velvet Studio. They play bad! If you go to menu View and press Find MPT Hacks in Song you will get:

Found invalid pattern commands
Found channel names
Compatible play is deactivated
Found incorrect mix levels (only compatible mix levels allowed)

Yes - the player plays every notes  ;) but thats all..

Try to play it using Velvet Studio - you will hear the difference!  ;D

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PC Players / Re: Yet another Tracker Module Decoder - MPPWC
« on: June 06, 2013, 19:47:07 »
I have also found this S3M which in not many players did play well.

http://files.exotica.org.uk/modland/?file=pub/modules/Screamtracker%203/Purple%20Motion/charts%20overdrive.s3m

 It was because of very short lenght of the samples which are the separate simple waves. So if the player counted the lenght wrong just of a byte excess the song then play falsely. I know this did the old Winamp original MOD plugin as I remember. Now it seems it is corrected. MPPWC plays absolutely alright! (thumbs up Dege!)

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PC Players / Re: Yet another Tracker Module Decoder - MPPWC
« on: June 06, 2013, 19:35:43 »
I don't think I understand your post.You say that these files don't play in Velvet Studio? You must be using an old verison or something, because I know that I have used these files to test my own AMS routines in OpenMPT, and I know for a fact that e.g. Leinad's Happy Hamster Hop works correctly in Velvet Studio (in fact, I have rendered it to WAV using the provided WAV writer once). Milky Tracker didn't import some of the AMS files quite as well as OpenMPT, I think. OpenMPT internally converts AMS files to IT, which is a more powerful format than XM (which MilkyTrackers imports to) - OpenMPT can thus support things like "Vibrato envelopes" in AMS files, which MilkyTracker doesn't. That's just one example out of many which I can remember right now, it's been a while since I played around with the AMS format.

No, Velvet Studio plays everything, because it is originaly made on it. I am talking about ModPlug Player/Tracker which can import some of the AMS but not all - try e.g. cream in my bag.ams from the archive link I have write upper or nectar of devotion.ams. This AMS can be only played on Velvet Studio or Milky Tracker if I know - I don´t know any other. The MPP or MPT don´t play it.

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PC Players / Re: Yet another Tracker Module Decoder - MPPWC
« on: June 06, 2013, 15:43:52 »
Velvet Studio AMS is slightly more advanced than the "classic" 2nd-generation formats (XM/IT). The AMS format by its predecessor, Extreme's Tracker, is easier, but both formats are well documented, so implementing them isn't that complicated if you have dealt with IT/XM before.
Not correct, libmodplug (and all plugins / players based on it) can "somehow" play Velvet Studio files (but with admittedly rather poor support), and its soon-to-be-done successor, libopenmpt supports Velvet Studio files rather well, and there will be plugins for a couple of players based on it, too.


Yes they exists but none of them can play at all (completely no sound) or don´t play correct way.

Yes, the AMS files are more advanced and I think better maybe the best of all modules, but there has never been much support for it.
Try my links to the archive of AMS files to play with that plugins you mentioned.. It will not play even on Velvet Studio itself.

The only player (tracker) that can play AMS partially well is Milky Tracker. I am not sure but also not everything I think it can play 100% well. And it is a little complicated don´t you think to use tracker for playing AMS files.  ;)

So I see the chance that the MPPWC once could be one and only plugin (player) which could play it well if Dege can implement it and maybe all other format which does exists - it will be great!, so it can at 100% replace all other plugins then.

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libmodplug
I have ModPlug Player/Tracker, yes the player is good and at this time maybe the best for its large file support, but none of the files from the archive this player can play. Only Milky Tracker can play it. So probably libopenmpt also could not!

eLK

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PC Players / Re: Yet another Tracker Module Decoder - MPPWC
« on: June 01, 2013, 00:55:40 »
Hi Dege,
thank you for the great module plugin!

Is it possible to implement also the support for the Velvet Studio AMS files?

You can find some e.g. here:
http://www.filewatcher.com/b/ftp/ftp.modland.com/pub/modules/Velvet%20Studio-0.html

It would be the only plugin that will exists to play this.

Thanks.
Lukas

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