Top one is registered under the actual artist.You don't need to specificy this every time, since it is not the criterion which is used for merging anyway, since it does in no way indicate that it might be the original file that we'd like to keep. On the contrary, in the first of your three posts the module registered to the actual artist actually contained some additional sample text added by a BBS, so it's definitely no the version that should be kept.
so it's definitely no the version that should be kept
Apart from that, I always appreciate credits for the author of a piece...These don't get lost when merging files. See also the first post of this thread.
The first one is weirdly panned, correct me if I'm wrong but I have read somewhere that people did this due to technical limitations on the Amiga.People did not "do this" (intentionally). It is simply not technically possible to do otherwise in the Amiga MOD format...
And the second would have been corrected?...and on the other hand, the XM format does not have channel panning but only sample panning, hence everything is just panned to center by default unless you set a different default sample panning for each sample.
By the way, given a xm file panned this way, how can I make it mono? Using Milkytracker I tried looking for the effect 8 and for panning settings in the instrument view but I didn't find anything.If you mean MOD file rather than XM, you probably can't as long as Milky plays it in Amiga ProTracker mode.
People did not "do this" (intentionally). It is simply not technically possible to do otherwise in the Amiga MOD format...Oh alright, thanks for the info.
...and on the other hand, the XM format does not have channel panning but only sample panning, hence everything is just panned to center by default unless you set a different default sample panning for each sample.Do you mean sample panning or instrument panning?
If you mean MOD file rather than XM, you probably can't as long as Milky plays it in Amiga ProTracker mode.Oh yeah sorry, that happens for MOD files only indeed. I was able to find the option and listening to them is much more enjoyable now!
Do you mean sample panning or instrument panning?I refer to it as sample panning because it's a per-sample setting in XM. In IT you have both sample panning (a property of the sample) and instrument panning (a property of the entire instrument).
I refer to it as sample panning because it's a per-sample setting in XM.Oh right, I was confused about this because in MilkyTracker (and from the screenshots I've seen FastTracker 2) you change the per-sample setting in the instrument panel, the sample you set this to is the one which is selected.
~snip ASCII art~apparently this particular song was created "using good old Modedit."
PRODUCTIONS PRESENT
*
BEAT iT UP (.AMF)
MOMO - African Style
CREATED by Sinbad [KLF]
Copyright (C) 1993
So I assume the artist will be (just about?) the only person who may have the original format - if they still have the files burnt somewhere on something still readable after 24 years...Yeah, that's why I said that I'm aware it's not always possible. But more often than not, e.g. when already-released songs get reused in demos or diskmags, the original file can be found as well.
(if my info is right) the original release-format from Kosmic was mtm though.Given the release date, that seems like the most plausible format indeed.
How about this one is my favorite module is "page" by Dalezy of the unconsciousness:
That was originally on December 1997.
One of them is in a format that's not playable nowadays ? (AHX)It's a remix / conversion, not a dupe. AHX is a chip music format not playable with the online player but it can be played e.g. with XMPlay's AHX plugin.
No real differences, here's a waveform diff (only small 1px dots/lines can be seen):Some bytes in the hi-hat sample of the second version were blanked, probably due to a transmission error. I removed that version.
occ-san-geen_long.mod (hash 3a54fc9fd94687a8f7d6e77589949d99) has been screened before and was rejected for the following reason: TIDY-UP MERGED. occ-san-geen.mod already exists as OCC-SAN.MOD on the archive..
I don't really know why that module has been merged with occ-san.mod, but these weren't:Because this is an ongoing process and I don't think anyone has reported them yet. And: All of this is a manual process, often it is not obvious at all which version is the "correct" one. Mistakes happen. From what I can see, OCC-SAN.MOD was the older copy of the two files in the archive (and not ripped from Need for Madness if that's what you implied; it's just likely that they downloaded this version for their game instead) and we decided to keep the older version.
New World Order has been merged.Oh, I understand now.QuoteI don't really know why that module has been merged with occ-san.mod, but these weren't:Because this is an ongoing process and I don't think anyone has reported them yet. And: All of this is a manual process, often it is not obvious at all which version is the "correct" one. Mistakes happen. From what I can see, OCC-SAN.MOD was the older copy of the two files in the archive (and not ripped from Need for Madness if that's what you implied; it's just likely that they downloaded this version for their game instead) and we decided to keep the older version.
Dupes: 49858 (OHYEAH.MOD) and 50305 (OH_YEAH.MOD)
Basically a really nice Soundtracker rendition of "Oh Yeah" by Yello.
Also, AMP has it credited to Marcus Thomson (http://amp.dascene.net/detail.php?detail=modules&view=13857)
Seems the mod with the extra sample is from a production according to Kestra.Looks like your right. Found the 100 kb version somewhere else on my harddrive, and sample 8 sounded like some random leftover sample parts.
http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/release.php?id=35809
Two different file sizes, not sure why. Same sound, same instrument labels, same length.Seems like someone went ahead and deleted two unused samples, so I would guess that the smaller files are not original. Apart from that, it would seem that either amiga.mod or hip_hop-3.mod might be the original, I went with amiga.mod.
im assuming 164527 is original because it has an instrument text which 65044 doesn have.."Yes and no", Music Contest entries were anonymous and to help with that, all sample texts were cleared. So the file with no texts is the MC5 file, while the one with texts was released after the results were out.
minefiel.mod is corrupted. instruments 2 and 9 are longer than they should beAm I missing anything obvious here? Samples that are padded with silence aren't really "corruption" - and this appears to be the original file in fact because it's a NoiseTracker file, while the other file is a ProTracker file. So I'm inclined to keep this version.
Am I missing anything obvious here? Samples that are padded with silence aren't really "corruption" - and this appears to be the original file in fact because it's a NoiseTracker file, while the other file is a ProTracker file.Nope. Just me being really bad at spotting what is corruption and what isn't.
hemisphere_1-2-41.mod is the originalAre you sure? Unlike the other files it's a StarTrekker module (FLT4 instead of M.K. magic bytes). Of course it could really have been written in StarTrekker, or some StarTrekker user resaved the file in that tracker for whatever reason.
pet_shop.mod removes an unused instrument, is named etc. but has a bbs notice, again I do not even know if these were edited in/out by someone else (besides the BBS notice obviously)All of that looks like it's the work of whoever spread the file through that BBS. Before uploading the file to their BBS, they would make sure it's named properly, and remove unused stuff to save space and speed up upload/download times.
I did go for the "Out To Lunch xx" versions though, as those are also what is on TDK's AMP profile.I see. That's understandable, thanks for checking.
ID | filename | title | release date |
63494 (https://modarchive.org/module.php?63494) | zafin.xm | final countdown! | 1 Dec 1998 |
151806 (https://modarchive.org/module.php?151806) | final_countdown.xm | final countdown! | 13 Sep 2004 |
https://modarchive.org/module.php?199656 and https://modarchive.org/module.php?199657 are duplicates.
make sure to keep 199657 since the author wants 199656 to be removed.
(saga please be active here again just this once, you're clearly better than me)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?199656 and https://modarchive.org/module.php?199657 are duplicates.
make sure to keep 199657 since the author wants 199656 to be removed.
(saga please be active here again just this once, you're clearly better than me)
Had to do it myself since I recently got admin powers...
Currently found 3 tracks, that are duplicate of "Speed-e Boy" by Martin Ivenson aka Nuke (or sometimes Spaceman).
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=172705 (Ykyrococ.com)
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=58075 (speedebo.mod)
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=130966 (speed-e_boy.mod)
Their sizes are identical as well as their length. The "ykyrococ.mod" upload has favourites and ratings on it. "speedebo.mod" upload only has favourites. "speed-e_boy.mod" upload doesn't have any such data
I’ve merged all these to the 58075 ID- do we know if the Nuke account on TMA is the same guy?
I’ve merged all these to the 58075 ID- do we know if the Nuke account on TMA is the same guy?
The author of the modules is British. The only artist account I've found on TMA states, that they're from Finland