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Community => The Lobby => Topic started by: MatrixMaster3 on January 21, 2009, 23:26:52
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Is it worth it to pay for Renoise? I'm looking to start tracking/making music on the computer (yay step up from my DS!) and was looking at Renoise.
I saw that you have to pay, where as all the tracking programs I've seen are free.
What I'm asking is: Is it worth it to buy Renoise? and not if Renoise is good or not.
So, should I order it or should I just look for a tracker/freeware program?
EDIT: Supposedly, the RC1 is public freeware now and it will upgrade to 2.0 "full" automatically, but I can't find it anywhere. Any help? A link?
If this isn't allowed, please, by all means, close this thread.
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You obviously didn't take a very close look at Renoise demo. You can use Renoise freely without having to pay for it, the only things you don't get which you get in the licensed version is ASIO support and Render-To-Wav, both of which aren't necessary to get a feel for the tracker. Rendering-to-wav can be worked around by recording your playback into Soundforge, Wavelab, Audacity, whatever...
For the record, I own a Renoise license after I found the program well worth it's price, it's a full studio DAW, not just a tracker. Personally, I classify Renoise as Studioware, not a tracker (it just has a tracker interface), it doesn't output classic module formats, only it's own XRNS format.
:)
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is there a site that has a tutorial on how to record into Audacity?
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Regarding your 'edit' about RC1; if it really is 'freeware' then it will be published so on the Renoise site. If it isn't then I doubt it. I asked the Renoise groupies on your behalf, they asked if they could come and beat you up.
Edit: Just so you know, they were joking ;)
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is there a site that has a tutorial on how to record into Audacity?
Press play in Renoise
Press Record in Audacity
You know, you should try experimenting, rather than asking for tutorials. This is the demoscene, you gotta get with the program :D
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is there a site that has a tutorial on how to record into Audacity?
Press play in Renoise
Press Record in Audacity
You know, you should try experimenting, rather than asking for tutorials. This is the demoscene, you gotta get with the program :D
my bad. Thanks for the tip! It's just that I have never experimented with this kind of stuff (messing around with programs). My dad's computer (which is a) 6years old; and b) very prone to crashes) as said is very prone to crashing if you do the wrong thing at the wrong time, so I don't particularly do things that aren't told to me in the readme's that come with the app. So, I'm not the investigative type...
But I guess I'll try harder next time...maybe...
EDIT: It seems my computer will only handle the smallest demo song that comes with the program (~26KB). Wow. Not gonna use this. Maybe later (like in the summer, when I have actual time, or maybe when I get an efficient computer, i.e. one that is less than one year old.) I think this computer has a Pentium 3, but I don't know.
Oh well, failed tracking program search number one, on to other more efficient trackers!
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Yeah, you gotta watch out - those tiny sized tunes don't give any clues as to how many DSPs are in use, therefore you could have loaded a really DSP intensive track.
My old Althlon 1.2Ghz machine was enough to run Renoise, but I began to hit the wall when I wanted to do more advanced pieces.
My piece called "Crisis" (http://modarchivr.com/sonicsoundscapes/mp3/2008/Renoise/ordered/06_m0d_-_Crisis.mp3) (my 6th piece of PC-tracked music) maxxed out my machine so much it couldn't actually play in realtime. So then I picked up a insanely powerful laptop from a friend for good money at a demoparty last September and haven't looked back since.
I have a nice Alienware M7700 dualcore 2.1Ghz laptop with Dual SATA RAID 80gb disks :), which means: Portable studio!
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thanks for bragging! :P
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thanks for bragging! :P
Thanks for bringing absolutely 0 value to this thread. :P
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You're welcome!
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well that song I played had absolutely no third party effects. It was bare-bones in every sense of the word, and every time it tried to hit a note, it took about a second for it to register it on my computer and send it through the speakers. It said it was only using ~1.5% (max) of the audio CPU power, but it was sluggish as crap. So, I could try making stuff like I've been doing on Nitro, but I wanted to make more sophisticated and not such limited music, but I'll go back to Nitro any time!
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you can try to decrease the buffer size to compensate delays.
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I actually think I'm gonna try out MadTracker, see how that works out!
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well that song I played had absolutely no third party effects.
It doesn't have to be third party, Renoise has plenty of internal DSP effects which when stacked enough, can naturally choke any CPU.
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Personally, I'm a big fan of OpenMPT -- it's well worth checking out. It's perhaps not as 'pro' as Renoise, but tbh, I think that you can produce results that sound just as good. Ultimately, it's not so much about the program as the skill of the musician and their ability to use the program. (That being said, yes, you can be severely limited or severely aided by poorly- or well-written software).
OpenMPT FTW! Jojo, back me up on this.
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The only thing OpenMPT really lacks atm is multi-input and multi-output for VSTs IMO, and apart from that... Yes, OpenMPT is great. :P