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Music Production => NitroTracker => Tracking => NitroTracker Feature Requests => Topic started by: atomicafro on August 19, 2008, 22:37:19
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Hi, just joined to throw my feature request in. I don't know how difficult it would be to implement, but I would love it if Nitrotracker could sync with Korg DS-10. I wonder if there would be a way to trick a NDS running DS-10 into thinking Nitrotracker was another DS-10 for the purposes of syncing the two together.
Thanks!
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haha i also just joined to ask about nitro syncing with the ds-10 too
would be a great feature
got the ds-10 last week and a friend just told me about nitro today
great program
getting it to sync with the ds-10 would be killer
cheers
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to be able to synq with other programs period would be awesome.
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Are you running DS-10 on some sort of flashcart? If you aren't, then it would be EXTREMELY difficult to take the information off of the chip. If you are running both of them on a flashcart, you would have to save only the file you wanted transfered (no other songs made in DS-10) and then NitroTracker would have to interpret the .SAV file as a XM file, which would (probrably) take quite a bit of time and programming, But it would be very awesome.
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But what you don't seem to know is that NT uses wavetable synthesis whereas the DS10 uses realtime additive synthesis.
So if NT would read DS10's .sav files, it would have to generate the right samples corresponding to the synth parameters, also taking into account automated controllers and LFOs!
And how could NT render delays, or more difficult, phasing or chorus effects?
By the way, extracting data from a cart is not that hard...
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Whatever. ;)
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I'm guessing tempo syncing the way you can sync multiple copies of DS-10 would be easier two implement than having the DS-10 synths incorporated in NT?
Sounds like it would be impossible without the sourcecode of DS-10
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But what you don't seem to know is that NT uses wavetable synthesis whereas the DS10 uses realtime additive synthesis.
Actually, DS10 uses realtime subtractive synthesis, and NT could only be very loosely considered "wavetable" and not the proper Waldorf sense either, more like the el-cheapo Sound Blaster AWE32 sense. Most trackers including NT could be better described as samplers with integrated sequencers.
C'mon man, your name is Synthesis, you're supposed to know this stuff! ;)
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You're right.
Indeed, I confused wavetable synthesis with Creative's & GUS's so-called "wavetable" synthesis, which is actually sample-based synthesis.
And I also compared additive synthesis to FL's 3xOsc plugin... Waveforms are added, right, but not that way...
C'mon man, your name is Synthesis, you're supposed to know this stuff! ;)
(well... :-\ :-[)
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(well... :-\ :-[)
Haha, it's all good man. ;D
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I've been playing with the idea of syncing to the DS-10 for about a year now, but I'm lacking the knowledge to reverse engineer the ds-10's wifi protocol. Once someone finds out how it works and writes a library that I can use, I'll add it immediately. The next version might at least get MIDI clock syncing via DSMI.
Reading DS-10 sav files is absolutely impossible since, as detailed above, NT uses a completely different (and also much simpler) way of generating sound.
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The next version might at least get MIDI clock syncing via DSMI.
This is massively good news!! I for one am super-hyped about that :)
Do you know if it is looking likely that it will be able to respond to anything else over MIDI via DSMI (such as playing individual [or multiple] samples, or maybe doing anything else) at the same time as having it clock syncing? Am I expecting far too much for nothing?