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Community => Help me find that... => Topic started by: sverx on November 24, 2009, 12:46:52
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Hello!
for a MOD loader I'm writing I'd need some MODs to test. These should be of one of the 'types' in the subject. If you know what those means so probably you know how to get some. Suggest them to me, thanks! :)
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Cant say I've heard of some of these formats, but a quick search found a few sites dealing with .mod formats. http://www.onicos.com/staff/iz/formats/mod.html
MA probably has in the main, standard mod formats, but you could try Modland where they are neatly catalogued into formats as well as artists.
ftp://ftp.modland.com (primary FTP site)
or
http://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Special:Modland (nice web-based interface for Modland)
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I think sverx knows very well about those custom header signatures. The header is often the same as for other mod formats actually. However, The actual data (esp patterns) are often quite different, and I don't even think that Modland does make a difference between those.
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I think sverx knows very well about those custom header signatures. The header is often the same as for other mod formats actually. However, The actual data (esp patterns) are often quite different, and I don't even think that Modland does make a difference between those.
Only in the fact that they are written in different tracker programs and on different platforms, which Modland does catalogue, not all though. Its the only site I can think of that really does not just store standard mod music files.
I managed to find some info on CD81 (Falcon) and TDZx (Taketracker), but couldnt find anything on EX08, what is that from?
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Thanks for the replies... I've tried that modland site but unfortunately it's impossible to search for those 'subtypes' of MOD :-\
About "EX08": I read about it somewhere on the Internet, never actually seen one in my life. And in the link Axxy provided it also mention "OKTA" (instead of "OCTA") and "16CN", "32CN" instead of "16CH" and "32CH", which also I never heard before.
btw this request can remain open indefinitely... if somebody happens to hit a MOD with a signature different from the most common "M.K." and "8CHN", well, I would like to see them :)
Saga: thanks for your 'old' XMs too. My loader complains on 2 of them (out of 5), I guess it's not a big problem ;D
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If you know what tracker is used to create those signatures, look in the main folder structure for the tracker, then the sub folder for mods created in that tracker. i.e Fasttracker and Fasttracker2 folders.
Seems theres 2 programs, called Octalyser and Oktalyzer, I presume they are different.
I did try Taketracker, but Modland obviously hasnt got any in that format. Again, I presume there arent going to be many mods available if at all.
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EX08 is StarTrakker, the same tracker that creates FLT4 and FLT8 modules if I'm not mistaken.
If found a couple of FLT* and EX08 mods here: ftp://modland.ziphoid.com/pub/modules/Startrekker%20AM/
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Oh, thanks! I'll download them ASAP :) Thanks also to Axxy for the suggestion, I'll investigate on this and I'll let you know :)
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Found two EXO4 (third char is the O letter, not the zero number...) and some FLT4 there. No luck with other subformats, still :-[
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Some more information from modfil11.txt:
// Another annotion about these tag fields: here you got some other fields.
// If you don't want to support them in your player, you should at least de-
// tect them. All these MODs have of course 31 instruments.
// 'FLT4', 'FLT8': Startrekker 4/8 channel file. ('FLT6' doesn't exists)
// 'CD81' : Falcon 8 channel MODs
// '2CHN' : FastTracker 2 Channel MODs
// 'yyCH' where yy can be 10, 12, .. 30, 32: FastTracker yy Channel MODs
// 'yyCH' where yy can be 11, 13, 15: TakeTracker 11, 13, 15 channel MODs
// 'TDZx' where x can be 1, 2 or 3: TakeTracker 1, 2, 3 channel MODs
// 'xCHN' where x can be 5, 7 or 9: TakeTracker 5, 7, 9 channel MODs
//
// Thanks must go to Inertia for most of these extra tag fields.
//
// All these formats, except for the FLT8 format, are *EXACTLY* the same as
// the standard M.K. 4 channel format; the only difference is the size of
// one pattern. The size of one pattern is calculated w/ the following
// "formula":
// (Nr_Of_Channels shl 8)
//
// ( Nr_Of_Channels shl 8 <====> Nr_Of_Channels*4*64
// ^ ^^
// | ||
// Note length: 4 bytes -----+ ||
// Lines/patttern: 64 ---------++
// )
// The tag '4CHN' doesn't exists.
//
// Some extra information about the "FLT8" -type MOD's:
//
// These MOD's have 8 channels, still the format isn't the same as the
// other 8 channel formats ("OCTA", "CD81", "8CHN"): instead of storing
// ONE 8-track pattern, it stores TWO 4-track patterns per logical pattern.
// i.e. The first 4 channels of the first logical pattern are stored in
// the first physical 4-channel pattern (size 1kb) whereas channel 5 until
// channel 8 of the first logical pattern are stored as the SECOND physical
// 4-channel pattern. Got it? ;-).
// If you convert all the 4 channel patterns to 8 channel patterns, do not
// forget to divide each pattern nr by 2 in the pattern sequence table!
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It would appear that StarTrakker modules (FLT/EXO) can contain "softsynth" samples. Quite a weird format...
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Even more (though not really helpful) information...
http://www.textfiles.com/music/FORMATS/star-frm.txt
This is maybe a little bit more helpful:
http://www.un4seen.com/forum/?topic=1771.msg11233#msg11233
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Thanks Saga, I already read those docs. I'm going to search some more info about those softsynth samples. Anyway I guess I could also forget about those subtypes, they're really rarely used.
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That's what I thought all the time. ModPlug can somehow read them, and there are maybe 40 FLT/EXO files on ModLand max, so it's not really worth making them work fully.
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Yep. So actually I just manage EXOx as they were FLTx, thus supporting all the common and some uncommon MOD subtypes. I just wish I could find an EXO8 to check if it conforms to the FLT8 scheme... well, let's leave it here in this topic, maybe someone will cross one of those files one day ;)