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Title: XM's with Skale
Post by: Pineconed on January 01, 2007, 03:09:52
This is my first post here so first of all, hello everyone!  :D

When I got XP a few years ago I got totally bummed out when I noticed, to my horror, that I couldn't get FT2 to work anymore. I'm pretty much a creature of habit and didn't really like any of the other trackers I found, until I found Skale!
But I noticed that the volume of the instruments was set by a number between 0-80 (hex) instead of 0-40 (also hex) as it was in FT2...

So, if I change the volume of an instrument to let's say 40 it will be half the volume when played in Skale, but if I save it as a XM and play in in some other player/tracker will it still be half or will it be misinterpreted as full blast?
Title: XM's with Skale
Post by: Axxy on January 01, 2007, 13:15:34
Hi and welcome.

I've given up tracking since I got XP, as I preferred FT2 as well. I'm not that familiar with Skale.

As a thought, you could always try loading your XM into Modplug Tracker to check volume levels in there. I suppose once you get used to Skale, the volume levels will no longer become an issue.
Title: XM's with Skale
Post by: Eagle on January 02, 2007, 15:04:57
Since MilkyTracker is FT2-clone and in my opinion better than that resource-demanding "Duke Nukem: Forever"-vaporware tracker known as Skale, I'd like to recommend you to try it out, if you have not already done so, or get DOSBox to run FT2 on Windows XP - it works for me.
Title: XM's with Skale
Post by: Pineconed on January 02, 2007, 15:30:44
Thanks, I think I'll try out both MilkyTracker and FT2 with DOSBox, as well as check out that volume issue with Modplug Tracker and the two just mentioned.

It feels great to finally be able to get started again!   :D
Title: XM's with Skale
Post by: s-go on January 03, 2007, 15:56:48
I'll have to agree that Milkytracker would be the best way to go for a FT2-driven fellow (as I myself am too). Skale lacks a lot of effects that even FT2 had and the editing of effects track per track gets awfully tedious when a lot of channels are being used. Even with that said, I have some interface issues with Milky, so that's why I mainly use Skale because my tracking limits nowadays to one hour compos. :grinno: I haven't tried using FT2 with Dosbox yet, maybe I'll have to give it a try too. 8-)

Also you might want to try Renoise to see how you like it, as it has a lot of similarities with FT2. It isn't free but it does take a few advancing steps from the FT2-clones. I can't say much more about it yet as I've just done a few stumbling tests with it.
Title: XM's with Skale
Post by: Eagle on January 04, 2007, 11:08:35
Though, Renoise has so many buttons and menus and stuff on the screen, it could scare off the impatient quite easily. I find it difficult to quickly see what the menus/buttons are for. But the advanced automated features make up for the lack of simplicity so that, once you have gotten use to it, it truly is a great tracker.

Running FT2 with Gravis Ultrasound on DOSBox has so far worked perfectly for me. If you notice a little lag, you may press Ctrl+F12 a few times, but avoid increasing the clock cycles too much as it will cause latency problems with the sound. Sound Blaster works good, too, although there is that amplification problem (FT2 mentions the problem in the help) and PC Speaker even works better than in reality on DOSBox (no extreme lag despite a fast computer).
Title: XM's with Skale
Post by: Saga Musix on January 04, 2007, 12:07:59
My computer seems to be too slow for IT or XM in dosbox (athlon 1900+)... when I play a song, the sound output gets choopy, no matter which cycle count I use...
Title: XM's with Skale
Post by: Axxy on January 04, 2007, 12:59:18
Maybe someone can write a step-by-step guide on setting up Dosbox for us dummies.

I had problems trying to get it to work with my Audigy 2, and now I have a X-Fi sound card, I only see more stress trying to get it to work.
Title: XM's with Skale
Post by: Eagle on January 04, 2007, 14:53:59
Well, I'm not extremly experienced with DOSBox. I mostly just drag and drop and through magic get it to work somehow.

But sure, I could do some studies and make some quick tutorial on setting up DOSBox. Otherwise you could check the Wiki in DOSBox for further information.[/url]
Title: XM's with Skale
Post by: Saga Musix on January 04, 2007, 19:19:23
It seems that my DosBox-Starter now really needs a MULTILINUGAL interface so you can use it aswell =)
Maybe i should also translate my dosbox tutorial...