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Title: duplicate modules
Post by: m0d on September 11, 2007, 10:02:34
Found some modules that are identical?

List their module IDs / links to the modules and if you know which one would be the correct one to keep, please say so as well.



FAQ:

Q: If it's a duplicate do the hits totals get added?

A: Yes, so do:


Also, the archive date of the oldest now prevails (automatically)
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: raina on December 29, 2014, 12:50:46
These
http://modarchive.org/module.php?47983
http://modarchive.org/module.php?174452

are smaller versions of
http://modarchive.org/module.php?32380

Differences beyond the small ones in sample text? Which one(s) should prevail?

Anyway, all of them and this one
http://modarchive.org/module.php?39874

should be assigned to Zodiak's profile.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on December 29, 2014, 20:01:54
Modules have been merged and assigned. Which module text prevails is acutally not a question because we always show the actual file content, i.e. since the smaller versions have been deleted, their text is now gone too.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: raina on December 29, 2014, 21:34:27
Yeah, I meant which file or files should stay. I couldn't say myself.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: LynXX on January 28, 2016, 00:04:07
Hi,

Those 3 are identical I believe:
* http://modarchive.org/module.php?52928
* http://modarchive.org/module.php?52727
* http://modarchive.org/module.php?55521

I'm not sure which one should be the canonical version though...
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on January 28, 2016, 00:13:34
Nice find, plinker.mod is definitely not the original as it contains a trimmed sample, so it's one of the other two. The only difference I can spot is a single letter in the sample names, so it probably doesn't make much of a difference which one is kept.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: LynXX on January 28, 2016, 23:47:42
Another 2 identical:
* http://modarchive.org/module.php?39533
* http://modarchive.org/module.php?39944

I'd keep the one named "CBR.MOD" because that's how I came to know this module 20+ years ago ;) but I don't really mind.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Ceekayed on January 29, 2016, 10:49:46
Just noticed:

http://modarchive.org/module.php?154989
http://modarchive.org/module.php?58596

The older one is the original, although I can't spot any differences apart from very minor sample text edits; wonder why anyone would've done that.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on January 29, 2016, 13:26:09
Merged!
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: getkey on March 05, 2016, 15:57:59
I found those two:
http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=52354 (http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=52354)
http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=164407 (http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=164407)

I also found a copy of this mod (with yet another checksum) here: http://hxc2001.free.fr/modules/mods/random_voice-monday.rar (http://hxc2001.free.fr/modules/mods/random_voice-monday.rar), but I am unable to say which is the original.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on March 08, 2016, 21:10:39
Merged, thanks!
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Peppi on April 01, 2016, 12:43:10
http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=114733
http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=36208

Of which the first is listed under the actual author Richard Joseph...
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on April 01, 2016, 21:40:12
Merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Peppi on April 06, 2016, 11:33:42
http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=41528
http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=108044
http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=41529

Each of these three are the same Elekfunk module by Moby. Top one is registered under the actual artist.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Peppi on April 06, 2016, 11:40:29
http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=40293
http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=40262

Both the legendary Cyberride/Cyberrace module. Top one is listed under the actual artist Jester...
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Peppi on April 06, 2016, 11:46:03
http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=115244
http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=43914
http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=43926

All the same module used as theme music for the game Gods. Top one credits the actual author Richard Joseph.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on April 07, 2016, 02:02:32
All merged.
Top one is registered under the actual artist.
You don't need to specificy this every time, since it is not the criterion which is used for merging anyway, since it does in no way indicate that it might be the original file that we'd like to keep. On the contrary, in the first of your three posts the module registered to the actual artist actually contained some additional sample text added by a BBS, so it's definitely no the version that should be kept.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Peppi on April 07, 2016, 23:34:32
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so it's definitely no the version that should be kept

Noted... It's sometimes hard to tell which file is the original. As I'm new on this forum, you may want to point me to some guidelines if there are any.

Apart from that, I always appreciate credits for the author of a piece...
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on April 08, 2016, 02:26:13
There aren't any guidelines, I decide which file should remain on a case-by-case basis.

Quote
Apart from that, I always appreciate credits for the author of a piece...
These don't get lost when merging files. See also the first post of this thread.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: getkey on April 27, 2016, 19:01:54
http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=117561 (http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=117561)
http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=118964 (http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=118964)

The second link lacks the "e" of "edvin" in the first instrument name.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on April 28, 2016, 15:09:06
Merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: DrMcCoy on June 02, 2016, 05:51:27
Skaven252's Realm of Chaos exists three times:
http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=36192
http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=70451
http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=56295

The last one is even misattributed to Purple Motion.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on June 02, 2016, 23:19:17
Merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: getkey on June 03, 2016, 21:05:57
These two seems to be the same:
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=122862 (https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=122862)
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=153942 (https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=153942)

The first one is weirdly panned, correct me if I'm wrong but I have read somewhere that people did this due to technical limitations on the Amiga. And the second would have been corrected?
However the instrument text says "zalza1998chiplover" for the first one and the other has "zalza 96" as the author, so the first one is actually anterior? ???

By the way, given a xm file panned this way, how can I make it mono? Using Milkytracker I tried looking for the effect 8 and for panning settings in the instrument view but I didn't find anything.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on June 04, 2016, 21:29:54
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The first one is weirdly panned, correct me if I'm wrong but I have read somewhere that people did this due to technical limitations on the Amiga.
People did not "do this" (intentionally). It is simply not technically possible to do otherwise in the Amiga MOD format...
Quote
And the second would have been corrected?
...and on the other hand, the XM format does not have channel panning but only sample panning, hence everything is just panned to center by default unless you set a different default sample panning for each sample.

I will probably just ask Zalza which file is the original one.

Quote
By the way, given a xm file panned this way, how can I make it mono? Using Milkytracker I tried looking for the effect 8 and for panning settings in the instrument view but I didn't find anything.
If you mean MOD file rather than XM, you probably can't as long as Milky plays it in Amiga ProTracker mode.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: getkey on June 04, 2016, 21:57:03
Quote
People did not "do this" (intentionally). It is simply not technically possible to do otherwise in the Amiga MOD format...
Oh alright, thanks for the info.

Quote
...and on the other hand, the XM format does not have channel panning but only sample panning, hence everything is just panned to center by default unless you set a different default sample panning for each sample.
Do you mean sample panning or instrument panning?

Quote
If you mean MOD file rather than XM, you probably can't as long as Milky plays it in Amiga ProTracker mode.
Oh yeah sorry, that happens for MOD files only indeed. I was able to find the option and listening to them is much more enjoyable now!
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on June 04, 2016, 23:06:59
Quote
Do you mean sample panning or instrument panning?
I refer to it as sample panning because it's a per-sample setting in XM. In IT you have both sample panning (a property of the sample) and instrument panning (a property of the entire instrument).
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: getkey on June 04, 2016, 23:31:58
Quote
I refer to it as sample panning because it's a per-sample setting in XM.
Oh right, I was confused about this because in MilkyTracker (and from the screenshots I've seen FastTracker 2) you change the per-sample setting in the instrument panel, the sample you set this to is the one which is selected.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Ryrynz on August 25, 2016, 08:00:28
Same mods? Different sizes..

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=171453
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=117607
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=54405
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on August 25, 2016, 12:33:16
Thanks, all merged into what is most likely the original file.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: getkey on January 14, 2017, 23:12:30
So I asked Zalza (he is really nice!) about https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=122862 (https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=122862) and https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=153942 (https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=153942).

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=153942 (https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=153942) is the original, and the typo in the title is intended. ;-)
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on January 15, 2017, 14:19:26
Merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: cj_elec_tech on June 27, 2017, 14:44:00
found these:
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=57287
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=106854

I think "sind_klf.mod" is the 'most-genuine' as the module name is the closest to what was originally released by the klf in 1993 (but I think both are identical?)
However, perhaps renaming the 'winning' file to
"Maelcum_-_Sindication_TM.mod"
is more in keeping with modarchive's requested file-naming format?
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on June 27, 2017, 21:44:48
Merged. For legacy modules, I generally prefer to keep the better-known legacy name as well.

PS: I saw that you recently uploaded a lot of old KLF stuff. I hope you're aware that AMF is just DMP's intermediate song format, i.e. not a tracker-specific format. If possible, it would be nice to have the original files (MOD/669/whatever) instead of AMF files, but I know this is not always possible.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: cj_elec_tech on June 28, 2017, 14:59:03
Thanks Saga Musix.

Re. AMF:
As far as I can tell the amf songs were originally released as amf?
These have been extracted from zips hosted at
ftp://ftp.scene.org/pub/music/groups/kosmic/1993/
and extracted amfs appear to have the correct release date in their file properties.
Additionally, the FILE_ID.DIZ states .amf as the release format; i.e.
Quote
~snip  ASCII art~
       PRODUCTIONS PRESENT
                *
       BEAT iT UP  (.AMF)
  MOMO - African Style   
  CREATED by Sinbad [KLF]               
     Copyright (C) 1993
apparently this particular song was created "using good old Modedit."
So I assume the artist will be (just about?) the only person who may have the original format - if they still have the files burnt somewhere on something still readable after 24 years...   ;)
(sorry if this is off-topic)
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: cj_elec_tech on June 28, 2017, 15:20:51
Here are some more duplicates:
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=169058 (it)
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=58693 (mtm)
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=69090 (s3m)
they all sound the same quality to me.
(if my info is right) the original release-format from Kosmic was mtm though.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on June 28, 2017, 18:53:25
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So I assume the artist will be (just about?) the only person who may have the original format - if they still have the files burnt somewhere on something still readable after 24 years...
Yeah, that's why I said that I'm aware it's not always possible. But more often than not, e.g. when already-released songs get reused in demos or diskmags, the original file can be found as well.

Quote
(if my info is right) the original release-format from Kosmic was mtm though.
Given the release date, that seems like the most plausible format indeed.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: cj_elec_tech on July 03, 2017, 17:03:54
These appear to be duplicates?
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=85701
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=57501
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on July 04, 2017, 02:25:10
Merged, thanks for spotting!
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Phlubby on October 06, 2018, 19:36:32
Malta (https://modarchive.org/module.php?66985) is a dupe of Actual Reality (https://modarchive.org/module.php?87263). Credits to Axxy for finding.

See thread (https://modarchive.org/forums/index.php?topic=4230.0) for more info.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Yomaru_Kasuga on October 07, 2018, 07:59:41
How about this one is my favorite module is "page" by Dalezy of the unconsciousness:
That was originally on December 1997.

The original one is:
https://modarchive.org/module.php?67414

But that module was duplicated:
https://modarchive.org/module.php?165362
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Axxy on October 07, 2018, 11:39:24
How about this one is my favorite module is "page" by Dalezy of the unconsciousness:
That was originally on December 1997.

Lol, and I had a third version of the same mod but mine was saved in Madtracker... weird..
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on October 08, 2018, 23:29:36
Also merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: fuzion.mixer01 on October 30, 2018, 07:04:59
"can u feel it?" Dupe:
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=134964

Original:
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=41051

Only change is "feal" to "feel" and the filename.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on October 31, 2018, 23:21:45
Merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Psirius on January 01, 2019, 21:42:29
Hello! I saw a duplicate. I don't know which is the difference. Not what I listened carefully. Dealing with the same thing (113.93 kb). Maybe it's just the title.
Keep an eye and look to remove one or the other.


Mindstorm.mod - ID.101.903 (Freshbrain)

Mindstrm.mod   - ID.51.860 (Not assigned to anyone)

Greetings. :P
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on January 02, 2019, 00:20:09
Merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Slender on March 17, 2019, 11:14:37
I believe I found a duplicate. xmasdaze.mod, module ID 62701, appears to be a duplicate of chrdayz2.mod, module ID 37022, the hashes are different but the modules seem to be otherwise identical. Both are by an anonymous author.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on March 17, 2019, 13:57:20
Yup, chrdayz2.mod contains an advertisment from Music Channel BBS in the sample texts so that one will have to go. Thanks for noticing!
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Slender on March 17, 2019, 18:37:16
Did the owner of the BBS modify module texts to advertise it? I've seen a few modules that claim to have been downloaded from there floating around.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on March 17, 2019, 19:57:59
Yes, typically those texts were not by the original artist, but of course that's not true in each and every case - for example the artist might advertise their "home" BBS through which they spread all their tunes. But with those Music Channel BBS texts you can be pretty sure they weren't added by the artist.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: speedsterharry on March 19, 2019, 20:31:45
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=118442
and
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=56694
and
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=55442
Appear to be the same file

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=116659
and
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=116921
Play the same apparently but are not the same length (filesize-wise)

Also, several instances of the great "Klisje paa Klisje"
http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=39533
and
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=163708
and
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=124227

One of them is in a format that's not playable nowadays ? (AHX)


https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=66338
and
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=33803
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on March 20, 2019, 14:53:49
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One of them is in a format that's not playable nowadays ? (AHX)
It's a remix / conversion, not a dupe. AHX is a chip music format not playable with the online player but it can be played e.g. with XMPlay's AHX plugin.
The other two files you have linked do not appear to be the same tune. Maybe you copied a wrong link?

All other stuff has been merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: fuzion.mixer01 on April 08, 2019, 06:37:14
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=80168
and
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=74638
dupes of
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=58473
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on April 08, 2019, 19:36:59
Yup.. u got to merge the music! ;D
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: n3tman on April 25, 2019, 03:19:29
random voice - monday

1: https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=164407

2: https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=67552

Checksums are different, but number of bytes and internal text is the same.

No real differences, here's a waveform diff (only small 1px dots/lines can be seen): https://ptpimg.me/ow1ssv.png
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: n3tman on April 25, 2019, 13:04:20
dubmood & nadom - Chicago chiphop

1: https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=42471

2: https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=137212

#2 is a normalized version of #1 (louder sound)

If you normalize both tracks to -0.1db, differences are unnoticeable: https://ptpimg.me/uu90lo.png
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on April 26, 2019, 20:11:52
Quote
No real differences, here's a waveform diff (only small 1px dots/lines can be seen):
Some bytes in the hi-hat sample of the second version were blanked, probably due to a transmission error. I removed that version.

One version of the dubmood track was saved in MadTracker, so I would assume the other one to be the original. Also merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Uncertain on July 19, 2019, 23:30:27
Duplicate of dozey:
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=68004
found at:
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=165295

First link doesn't have the "ripped" comment and is older.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on July 23, 2019, 18:12:43
Merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Uncertain on August 04, 2019, 01:15:51
More dupes I've found a while back, haven't really heard which ones sounded better:

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=67414
Dupe: https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=165362

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=106287
Dupe: https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=68087

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=79334
Dupe: https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=65380

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=36543
Dupe: https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=182916
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on August 04, 2019, 14:16:49
All merged!
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Uncertain on August 13, 2019, 04:08:47
Another fresh batch of dupes  :police:

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=38085
Dupe: https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=75461


https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=106668
Dupes:
- https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=68071
- https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=58155


https://modarchive.org/module.php?67986
Dupes with different names:
- https://modarchive.org/module.php?39322
- https://modarchive.org/module.php?77624


https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=68085
Dupe with different name:
- https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=144204
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on August 13, 2019, 23:30:43
All merged except for the first, which doesn't seem like a dupe to me but rather an unfinished / broken track using the same samples and name?
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Slender on August 28, 2019, 15:12:46
Another duplicate. "94956", https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=47106, appears to be an uncredited and renamed version of "Kingdom Skies", https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=44452.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on August 28, 2019, 21:58:45
Nicely spotted! They are now merged (and ModLand admins have been notified that they have the same dupe)
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Kinnikinnick0718 on August 30, 2019, 18:33:30
I posted the song "new world order" in S3M format before finding the actual module (it was made in Composer 669:)

Original: https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=184434 (https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=184434)
Duplicate: https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=184310 (https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=184310)

Also, about this:

Quote
occ-san-geen_long.mod (hash 3a54fc9fd94687a8f7d6e77589949d99) has been screened before and was rejected for the following reason: TIDY-UP MERGED. occ-san-geen.mod already exists as OCC-SAN.MOD on the archive..

Uncle Tom himself made a remix of occ-san-geen called occ-san-geen.long, and it's a bit different from the original version (just like the other occ-san-geen in the screening queue,) and thus I don't really know why that module has been merged with occ-san.mod, but these weren't:

Nes-Tea: https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=49984 (https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=49984)
Nes-Tea but it's a little different: https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=103971 (https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=103971)

The version that's in the archive isn't even the original occ-san-geen, it's a subtle remix that was featured in the game "Need for Madness."
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on August 30, 2019, 21:05:29
New World Order has been merged.

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I don't really know why that module has been merged with occ-san.mod, but these weren't:
Because this is an ongoing process and I don't think anyone has reported them yet. And: All of this is a manual process, often it is not obvious at all which version is the "correct" one. Mistakes happen. From what I can see, OCC-SAN.MOD was the older copy of the two files in the archive (and not ripped from Need for Madness if that's what you implied; it's just likely that they downloaded this version for their game instead) and we decided to keep the older version.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Kinnikinnick0718 on August 31, 2019, 07:09:17
New World Order has been merged.

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I don't really know why that module has been merged with occ-san.mod, but these weren't:
Because this is an ongoing process and I don't think anyone has reported them yet. And: All of this is a manual process, often it is not obvious at all which version is the "correct" one. Mistakes happen. From what I can see, OCC-SAN.MOD was the older copy of the two files in the archive (and not ripped from Need for Madness if that's what you implied; it's just likely that they downloaded this version for their game instead) and we decided to keep the older version.
Oh, I understand now.
But I still believe the version in the archive is the one from Need for Madness, since the original version I found on AMP doesn't use the toms on pattern 28 and also ends differently (you can still find pattern 41 in OCC-SAN.MOD,) while the version in NFM ends almost exactly like the "long" version:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1DFx-FrTPvqTmnLtnSKJiuLVfbm4ywkww (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1DFx-FrTPvqTmnLtnSKJiuLVfbm4ywkww)

But I guess it's not that important. Thanks for merging the two.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on September 01, 2019, 19:02:17
Sure it might be the same version as used in the game - but that doesn't say anything about being the "right" or "wrong" version. It's often impossible to tell which version(s) were spread by the original author or were modified by others, and being on AMP doesn't necessarily make it any more legit than being on ModArchive or the other way around. Without having any clear hint on which version might be the "right" one, I won't replace or merge anything in this specific case.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Slender on September 10, 2019, 04:42:20
Some more dupes.
uralvol.mod and uravlga.mod, https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=59284 and https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=59292, are both duplicates of uralvolga_fine.mod, https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=88574. From looking at several sites, uralvolga_fine.mod appears to be the original, and is also attributed to Bruno in the guest artists.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on September 11, 2019, 19:39:07
Indeed, in the two other versions the last sample is truncated. They have been merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Slender on September 12, 2019, 03:47:27
Another Bruno dupe, and possibly a rip?
Dupe: metalica.mod https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=51003.
Possible rip: controll.mod https://api.modarchive.org/downloads.php?moduleid=38966#controll.mod.
These are dupes of controller.mod https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=85647. controll.mod is oddly slowed down in various places, but appears to be otherwise identical to controller.mod.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on September 12, 2019, 19:39:53
controll.mod was definitely imported into ST2 or ST3 and then re-saved as MOD, as you can see from the randomly added numbers in the sample names. Looking at the samples data, controller.mod appears to be the original as there is some weird sample start shifting going on in metalica.mod. I will keep controller.mod.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Slender on September 29, 2019, 09:14:13
Another dupe discovered while looking through the orchestral genre. All4rain.xm, https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=170740, is a duplicate of all_for_the_rain.xm, https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=134227. All4rain is likely an edited version that appeared in a TSRh keygen.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on September 29, 2019, 21:45:22
Hard to tell because from what I can see amusic's other XMs were not made with DigiBooster, but maybe it's still the original.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Slender on September 29, 2019, 23:30:57
Actually all4rain seems to be the original. https://files.scene.org/get/parties/1997/gardening97/mmul/all4rain.zip. Did Digi Booster add that made with Digi Booster text to modules saved with it?
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on September 30, 2019, 19:38:47
Yes it does. Oh well, the files are now merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: sherekhan on October 05, 2019, 22:46:29
Dupes: sonni.s3m and caero.s3m by Dune.

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=74709
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=71547

Context: I believe the module name is sonni, but it was used in the demo Caero by EMF. http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=2163
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on October 08, 2019, 21:32:23
Merged, thanks!
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: sherekhan on October 10, 2019, 19:35:42
Dupes: Spacesong by Jesper Kyd.

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=65925
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=68816
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on October 13, 2019, 17:51:49
Also merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Slender on October 15, 2019, 07:46:32
Another dupe.
BLUEBOX.MOD, https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=34569, appears to be a duplicate of blueboxing.mod, https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=122430. Even though it's more recent, judging by the sample texts it seems that blueboxing.mod is the original.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on October 16, 2019, 21:12:29
At the very least it doesn't have a rip notice, so I agree that we should keep that version.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Slender on October 21, 2019, 14:27:44
Dupe time again. Mystical_-_salcon.mod, https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=161916, appears to be a duplicate of salcon.mod, https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=55102. Only difference between these two appears to be the lack of a title in salcon.mod, which appears to have been the original from Theparty96.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on October 21, 2019, 21:16:28
Given that the title isn't even complete (according to the sample text), I doubt it belongs there. I kept salcon.mod.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Slender on October 24, 2019, 13:44:28
Dupe time again. 08-kto_wrobi_arnolda.mod, https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=106290, appears to be a duplicate of 08-kto_wrobi_arnoldascorpi.mod, https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=116023. Judging by the sample texts, it seems that it would make sense to keep 08-kto_wrobi_arnolda.mod.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on October 25, 2019, 19:39:45
I guess so too. Merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Slender on November 07, 2019, 11:44:55
Dupe. Pkunk2.mod, https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=95039, appears to be a duplicate of pkunk.mod, https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=55320. It's unclear what the difference is between the two, they seem to play the same.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on November 07, 2019, 21:02:25
pkunk2.mod seems like it could be the older version of the two, as the header kinda looks like it might have been saved with NoiseTracker (rather than ProTracker). That's the only obvious difference I could find so I kept that file.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Slender on November 09, 2019, 07:29:22
Indeed you are correct, I initially forgot to check the original file from Star Control II, but I recently did and pkunk2.mod has the same hash.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Slender on November 14, 2019, 09:35:52
Dupe. orch.s3m, https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=68868, appears to be a duplicate of ORCH.S3M, https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=49878. Only difference appears to be the lack of a title in ORCH.S3M and the uppercase file name, so ORCH.S3M is probably the original.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on November 17, 2019, 22:46:28
Hard to tell really... since the title seems to be the only difference I stuck with the version that has a title.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Flashira on May 10, 2020, 06:18:16
https://modarchive.org/module.php?170069 is a dupe of https://modarchive.org/module.php?37623 (the dupe has a title added with modplug if i aint wrong)
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on May 10, 2020, 20:03:54
Merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Flashira on May 15, 2020, 06:39:02
https://modarchive.org/module.php?161633 is a dupe of https://modarchive.org/module.php?51665

(the only difference in the module is the dupe has a filename somehow set as title)
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on May 16, 2020, 16:07:08
Merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Flashira on May 17, 2020, 09:29:25
https://modarchive.org/module.php?159512 is a dupe of https://modarchive.org/module.php?47978

again, the only difference i could find is that the filename was somehow put as a title (edit, for clarification: the dupe had the title filled)
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on May 17, 2020, 13:17:33
Also merged. Note that if there is no title, the website shows the filename instead, so that is why "the filename was put as a title". If you look at the file in a tracker, you will see that the title is empty. The other, newer file was presumably just a modified copy where the title was filled in by someone else.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Flashira on May 17, 2020, 14:05:37
i know that
Title: crusader-1499.mod = 12th warrior
Post by: p2ba on May 28, 2020, 04:51:10
Howdy! This is probably not a plagiarism since the author's name has been left untouched in the file's msg. I just decided to report the file "crusader-1499.mod" just because it's exactly the same file as 12th warrior but with the title of the song changed to "crusader". Not sure what's all that about.
Title: Re: crusader-1499.mod = 12th warrior
Post by: Saga Musix on May 28, 2020, 18:34:06
These kind of things should be reported in the duplicate modules (https://modarchive.org/forums/index.php?topic=869.0) thread instead because, as you stated yourself, it's not plagiarism in the classic sense. These kind of things (renaming files in particular when ripping them from games) did happen frequently.
Anyway, the modules have been merged into one.
Title: Re: crusader-1499.mod = 12th warrior
Post by: p2ba on May 29, 2020, 06:28:24
Sorry, didn't know there is a dedicated space for this. Please move it there :angel:
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: ss5g on June 06, 2020, 20:21:01
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=36990
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=178930
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=189185

Are dupes of
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=189145
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on June 07, 2020, 21:21:27
Thanks, all merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: sherekhan on July 01, 2020, 10:56:21
Dupes: ID 37210 and 56660.

Bladswede Remix by Allister Brimble, from the Team 17 game Project X.

There is another similar version at ID 53130, but this one sounds different in the beginning. I believe this is from the 3-disk re-relase of Project X, while the two IDs above are from the original 4 disk release.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on July 01, 2020, 20:11:46
Thanks, I merged the former two (bladswed.mod had four extra bytes at the end of the file which didn't belong there). Since 53130 is different, it will stay of course.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: sherekhan on July 03, 2020, 09:52:56
Dupes: 49858 (OHYEAH.MOD) and 50305 (OH_YEAH.MOD)

Uploaded same date. Seems the only difference is that the latter has a BBS ad in the sample text.

Basically a really nice Soundtracker rendition of "Oh Yeah" by Yello.

I see ModLand has it credited to Dr. Awesome aka Bjørn Lynne, but not sure if that is correct. It looks kind of out-of-character for him. Also, AMP has it credited to Marcus Thomson (http://amp.dascene.net/detail.php?detail=modules&view=13857)
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: sherekhan on July 03, 2020, 12:29:09
Another dupe: 124641 (CYBERCHRIST.MOD) is a dupe of 40248 (CYB.MOD), except it has corrupted samples. 40248 sounds allright, 124641 should be deleted.

Author = Vortex/Cryptoburners.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Axxy on July 03, 2020, 20:39:54
Dupes: 49858 (OHYEAH.MOD) and 50305 (OH_YEAH.MOD)

Basically a really nice Soundtracker rendition of "Oh Yeah" by Yello.

Also, AMP has it credited to Marcus Thomson (http://amp.dascene.net/detail.php?detail=modules&view=13857)

I've had it on my harddrive since 1997 credited to Yello. I didn't realise it was a cover song. Ferris Bueller I suppose...

It comes from various productions according to https://demozoo.org/sceners/45602/, including a Crystal cracktro credited to Marcus. Time to amend the author....
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on July 03, 2020, 22:23:41
All merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Flashira on July 04, 2020, 08:23:47
https://modarchive.org/module.php?163565 and https://modarchive.org/module.php?48985 needs to be merged.

newer upload (nether.mod) sounds okay while the older upload (Netherworld.mod) has some samples corrupted.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on July 04, 2020, 12:42:18
Merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: sherekhan on July 06, 2020, 15:46:14
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=42334
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=76799
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=76802
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=123849

Equinoxe part 3 (not 2, even if that's what 3 of these 4 versions say), original by Jean Michel Jarre, cover version by Allister Brimble. The only difference seems to be the sample text and titles.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on July 06, 2020, 19:31:32
What a mess ;D I have merged them all into equinoxe_part_3.mod.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: sherekhan on July 24, 2020, 14:05:18
Dupes
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=33360
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=164197

Alphaville - Big in Japan, cover by Pat.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on July 24, 2020, 20:11:32
Thanks, alphvlle.mod had the last sample shortened so I removed that one.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Flashira on July 24, 2020, 20:21:52
https://modarchive.org/module.php?189792
this module that just have been uploaded and spotlit is a dupe of this: https://modarchive.org/module.php?122676
keep 122676 i guess?? (that module had been used in several cracktros from prestige)
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on July 24, 2020, 21:10:19
Yeah, that is definitely the "more original" file.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on July 24, 2020, 23:20:12
...in fact I replaced both copies now, as the one on the archive also had the wrong title.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Flashira on August 27, 2020, 04:00:01
https://modarchive.org/module.php?163326 is a dupe of https://modarchive.org/module.php?40635

163326 seems to be resaved with modplug.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on August 27, 2020, 15:58:35
Merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: sherekhan on August 31, 2020, 12:32:22
Dupes?

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=127765
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=48902

Magnetic Fields IV by Jean Michel Jarre, cover version by Time Traveller. Sounds the same, same playlength, slightly altered sample texts. Maybe different revisions? Also significantly different size, but I am unable to download the larger one for some reason (I only get a 0 kb file), so can't investigate why.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on August 31, 2020, 14:56:51
The bigger one seems to contain a corrupted, unused sample (bad rip?), I think that's the only difference. That version needs to go.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Axxy on August 31, 2020, 18:00:04
Seems the mod with the extra sample is from a production according to Kestra.
http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/release.php?id=35809

AMP also has both versions.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: sherekhan on September 01, 2020, 20:07:43
Seems the mod with the extra sample is from a production according to Kestra.
http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/release.php?id=35809
Looks like your right. Found the 100 kb version somewhere else on my harddrive, and sample 8 sounded like some random leftover sample parts.

Also, the page you link to shows a screenshot with the 23 kb sample in slot #8, but the actual download link is the 76 kb version of the mod.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: sherekhan on September 01, 2020, 20:41:53
Dupes dupes dupes dupes dupes dupedupedupes

Shang Highscore by Dr Awesome:
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=65248
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=90319

Jazz Bubbles by Nightshade:
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=90319
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=45096

Doin the Sushi by Dr Awesome: (different sample text)
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=95022
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=54411

Shoot'em up! by Dr Awesome:
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=90452
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=54303

Streetswept by Dr Awesome:
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=60569
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=65274

Prophet 2001 by Dr Awesome:
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=56702
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=65238

Sports Illustrated by Dr Awesome:
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=91231
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=54363

Aladdin by Nightshade:
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=33210
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=173064
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=113541
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=172445
(two appear to be MODs saved as S3M)
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on September 02, 2020, 17:16:05
All done, except for "Jazz Bubbles", as the first link pointed to "Shang Highscore" instead and I couldn't find any other obvious dupe of it.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: sherekhan on September 02, 2020, 23:26:43
My bad, here are the correct ones:
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=169592
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=45096

Sorry about the mixup. Was checking out some of the old DENS Design stuff, and had a bunch of tabs open.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on September 03, 2020, 01:05:30
Alright, they are merged now.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: sherekhan on September 08, 2020, 14:43:45
Dupes:
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=133165
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=125322

Whispering Wind/CRB-theme 3. Different title and sample text.

From the music disc "Time Traveller Music Collection 1"
http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/release.php?id=2535
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on September 08, 2020, 18:26:08
whispering_wind.mod is "more original" since it's a SoundTracker module, the other one is a ProTracker conversion. Merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: sherekhan on September 10, 2020, 08:43:46
Quintupe

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=78320
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=33453
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=61048
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=79787
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=79930

Two different file sizes, not sure why. Same sound, same instrument labels, same length.

Remember getting this back in the day as "mod.3", I believe it was on a CU Amiga cover disk. Have no idea who made it, but remember thinking it sounded very professional for the time.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: sherekhan on September 10, 2020, 13:24:00
Truple

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=36128
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=117420
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=52963

Dark Angels Rage by Redferne.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on September 10, 2020, 19:02:45
Quote
Two different file sizes, not sure why. Same sound, same instrument labels, same length.
Seems like someone went ahead and deleted two unused samples, so I would guess that the smaller files are not original. Apart from that, it would seem that either amiga.mod or hip_hop-3.mod might be the original, I went with amiga.mod.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Flashira on September 25, 2020, 07:40:00
https://modarchive.org/module.php?164474 is a dupe of https://modarchive.org/module.php?55070

164474 has 55070's filename as song title.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Flashira on September 25, 2020, 08:11:58
https://modarchive.org/module.php?160343 is a dupe of https://modarchive.org/module.php?42535
160343 has a filename of 42535 as song title.
(lol, 2 dupe reports from me in 1 day..)
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on September 25, 2020, 18:40:46
Merged. Note that "filename as song title" simply (at least in most cases, open the actual file to verify) means that there is no song title. Seems like someone was bothered by the file not having a title (those without song titles are the originals) and then added it themselves.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Flashira on October 22, 2020, 10:57:27
https://modarchive.org/module.php?39533 is a duplicate of https://modarchive.org/module.php?47057

(i assume 47057 is more original because it doesn't have rip notice)
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on October 22, 2020, 18:38:03
Merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Flashira on November 24, 2020, 20:21:53
radix - emelie
https://modarchive.org/module.php?65044
https://modarchive.org/module.php?164527

im assuming 164527 is original because it has an instrument text which 65044 doesn have..


willbe - spotlight
https://modarchive.org/module.php?163825
https://modarchive.org/module.php?159889

163825 is more original because it doesnt have downloaded from tis notice

wayfinder - fleetwood imac
https://modarchive.org/module.php?157343
https://modarchive.org/module.php?162725

157343 has a title filled in 'littleli' whereas 162725 doesnt have it filled in (like the one on scene.org)
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on November 24, 2020, 22:49:11
im assuming 164527 is original because it has an instrument text which 65044 doesn have..
"Yes and no", Music Contest entries were anonymous and to help with that, all sample texts were cleared. So the file with no texts is the MC5 file, while the one with texts was released after the results were out.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: themoon_follow on January 03, 2021, 02:34:14
Might also want to take a look at these:

This is the original one (garddrag.mod). (https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=42931)

Here are the duplicates:
gdragon.mod
guardian.mod

Original thread (https://modarchive.org/forums/index.php?topic=4571.0)
Involved search result (https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=search&query=guardian+dragon&submit=Find&search_type=filename_or_songtitle)

~~~

Updating this to confirm that these are now redirected to the original module (403 redirect), with links removed upon confirmation.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on January 03, 2021, 13:48:50
Thank you. In fact neither of them can really be considered the original, as they are all memory rips. But I did go with the oldest copy in the archive as suggested.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: themoon_follow on January 04, 2021, 01:16:32
Thanks for the assistance! I'll let you know when there are more of them; who knows, they could be anywhere  :D
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on January 04, 2021, 22:59:42
There definitely are. ;)
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Flashira on July 13, 2021, 20:46:54
https://modarchive.org/module.php?169376 and https://modarchive.org/module.php?133683 are pretty much of the same.

https://modarchive.org/module.php?169372 and https://modarchive.org/module.php?142587 are pretty much of the same too.

https://modarchive.org/module.php?134959 has title (seemingly automatically) filled in from the filename, while https://modarchive.org/module.php?169375 doesn't seem to have it (likely more original)
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on July 13, 2021, 22:55:48
All merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: sherekhan on July 30, 2021, 09:22:42
Dupes:

The Zen Garden by Basehead
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=63700
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=70385

Seems the only difference is contact info added to one version.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on July 30, 2021, 20:45:22
Merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Flashira on October 09, 2021, 16:40:32
https://modarchive.org/module.php?192274 and https://modarchive.org/module.php?70096 are dupes of https://modarchive.org/module.php?52707
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on October 13, 2021, 23:24:56
Both merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Flashira on November 28, 2021, 18:49:27
https://modarchive.org/module.php?175674 and https://modarchive.org/module.php?139293 should be merged...

i think 175674 is more original because it doesnt have the advert textfile of a sampling cd pasted into the comments field (presumably with modplug)
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on November 28, 2021, 19:25:47
Merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Flashira on January 11, 2022, 00:02:35
https://modarchive.org/module.php?173682 is a dupe of https://modarchive.org/module.php?42781
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on January 11, 2022, 18:36:31
Merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: yeah on February 06, 2022, 13:18:21
e final a.c.p. (e_final_a_c_p.mod)
Einstein_music (einstein_music.mod)

not a single byte of difference so the oldest (Einstein_music) should probably be kept

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=95260
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=91306
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on February 06, 2022, 18:00:06
Merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: yeah on February 15, 2022, 17:37:17
dragonfutsch (dragonfu.mod)
Dragon Futsch (dragon_futsch.mod)
dragonfutsch (dragonfutsch.mod)

dragonfutsch.mod should be kept because the internal texts are more complete

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=40313
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=78486
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=121155

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crazytrain (CRAZYTRN.MOD)
crazytrain (crazytr.mod)
crazytrain (crzytran.mod)

CRAZYTRN.MOD should be kept because it is older. I see no difference between CRAZYTRN.MOD and the two others despite the 70 bytes difference, but if I am wrong then feel free to keep crazytr.mod.

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=34643
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=39527
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=40012

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chopper 1 (chopper1.mod)
chopper 1 (chopper_1.mod)

chopper_1.mod should be kept because it is older and it has extra information in the internal texts

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=36969
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=81674
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on February 15, 2022, 19:55:13
All merged.
Note that upload age should never server as a decision factor unless the files are otherwise identical (which was not the case for crazytrain for example, there were some differences in pattern data). Information inserted by people other than the original author (e.g. "this file passed through xxxxxx BBS" or "ripped by xxxxxxx") is always a reason to not prefer that file, because it shows that it's not the original file, even if that means that a file not containing any author information at all would be kept. (though it seems like I was distracted and did keep the chopper 1 version with the rip notice inside... oh well.)
Also note that unless you have specific knowledge which file is certain to be the original, you don't need to specifiy which file to keep. If it's just a random guess which file to keep, it would be more helpful not to make that guess at all.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: yeah on February 16, 2022, 15:08:41
I see... sorry about that, I was trying to follow the instructions of the first post but I suppose I'm not very good at this haha. Here are a few more:

moby.2good2b true (2_good_2_b_true.mod)
moby.2good2b true (2good2be.mod)

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=111747
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=60628

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einstein-2d6 (eien286.mod)
einstein-2d6 (einstein-2d6.mod)

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=41244
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=91351

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funky dumbass (j_fnkdas.xm)
funky dumbass (funky_dumbass.xm)

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=44589
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=139411

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einsteinium-04 (einsteinium-04_lng.mod)
einsteinium-04 (einstein.mod)

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=91292
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=41269

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purple-shades (hi_lite-purple-shades.mod)
purple-shades (purple-shades.mod)

Notice the samples for these two modules are not quite the same.

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=67788
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=101108

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are you stupid? (are_you_stupid.mod)
are you stupid? (emax-are_you_stupid.mod)

Same as purple-shades, the samples are not exactly the same.

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=92256
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=67566

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introchip #1 (ZA) (zachi1.xm)
introchip #1 '97 (zalza-introchip1_97.xm)

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=63454
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=66586

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stay happy (stay_happy.mod)
7-inside.exe (eclipse_-_midi_sight_readerkg.xm)

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=114917
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=185343

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shiny-meadows (i-lite_shiny_meadows.mod)
shiny-meadows (shiny-meadows.mod)

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=190833
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=101326
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on February 16, 2022, 20:51:57
All merged except for "funky dumbass" as there's something interesting about the 2nd file I want to investigate first.
I also rephrased the first post a bit to hopefully make it clearer that it's not required to specifiy the file to keep.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: yeah on February 19, 2022, 03:42:13
Some more, sorry if I am doing this too much... some of these arent exact duplicates in the sense that some samples might have been swapped or the BPM have been changed one way or another.

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Unknown ?? (deepest.mod)
mystic places (mystic_places.mod)

mystic_places.mod is the most original

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=75702
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=108855

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Alf Remix (alf_remix.mod)
alf remix (alfremix.mod)

it appears both modules are corrupted anyway.

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=122095
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=33250

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Unknown by Anon! (unknown_by_anon.mod)
Shining_VectorExter (shining_vectorexter.mod)
vector exterminator (vector_exterminator.mod)

unknown_by_anon.mod is pitched up one semitone for some odd reason, but it is the same. vector_exterminator.mod is the most original

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=76083
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=75622
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=88611

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mod.POTATOJUICE (potato.mod)
mod.POTATOJUICE (potatojuice.mod)

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=56104
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=94877

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W2.MOD (w2.mod)
W2.MOD (w2-3.mod)

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=59995
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=155303

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bs1-song23-m (acme_-_intervideo_windvd_creator_platinum.mod)
bs1-song23-m (bs1song.mod)
bs1song23 (bs1-song-23.mod)

only bs1-song-23.mod does not have a rip mention

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=170317
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=38935
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=66046

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enjoy the silence (enjoy.mod)
enjoy the silence (enjoy_the_silence.mod)
enjoy the silence (ENJOYSIL.MOD)
enjoy the silence (enjoythe.mod)

enjoythe.mod is corrupted and enjoy.mod is the only one that does not have that BBS mention

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=160945
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=76902
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=40502
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=42185

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magical2 (magical-.mod)
magical2 (magical2.mod)

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=48921
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=48927

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depechemix (depechem.mod)
depechemix (depechemix.mod)

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=37532
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=122883

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billie jean .. (bilijean.mod)
billie jean .. (billie_jean_.mod)

Both appears to be corrupted anyway but billie_jean_.mod removes unused instruments

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=36706
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=76331

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minefield runner (minefiel.mod)
minefield runner (minefield_runner.mod)

minefiel.mod is corrupted. instruments 2 and 9 are longer than they should be

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=51885
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=118733

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wolf1 (operation_wolf-briefing.mod)
wolf1 (wolf1.mod)

The BPM is not quite the same

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=105434
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=75646

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FUR_ELISE (furelis.mod)
FUR_ELISE (furelis2.mod)

unsure if that classifies as a duplicate, these modules are clearly the same but the samples were swapped in one of them (something similiar was done by someone in 2016, which I'm assuming the quality standards for a module to be uploaded got stricter since the für elise ones were uploaded; https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=search&query=mod.airy&search_type=songtitle)

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=43940
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=43942
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Viraxor on February 19, 2022, 18:01:07
SOMEWHER.MOD & chatcall.mod

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=36309
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=54341
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Songerson on February 19, 2022, 19:56:58

First file ("crockets" / crockets.mod) is corrupted.
Third file ("crockets theme" / crocket-925.mod) has different samples, unlike the 1st and the 2nd file.



Not sure if the fifth file should be considered a duplicate. It is similar to four previous files, but has some differences:
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on February 19, 2022, 21:30:14
All done except for
Quote
minefiel.mod is corrupted. instruments 2 and 9 are longer than they should be
Am I missing anything obvious here? Samples that are padded with silence aren't really "corruption" - and this appears to be the original file in fact because it's a NoiseTracker file, while the other file is a ProTracker file. So I'm inclined to keep this version.

I'll also keep the two "Für Elise" versions as it's not really clear which of the two might be the original.

Edit: that alf tune has been replaced by a non-broken version.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: yeah on February 19, 2022, 22:24:04
Quote
Am I missing anything obvious here? Samples that are padded with silence aren't really "corruption" - and this appears to be the original file in fact because it's a NoiseTracker file, while the other file is a ProTracker file.
Nope. Just me being really bad at spotting what is corruption and what isn't.

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test3 (endlessly.mod)
test3 (test3.mod)

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=76974
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=76045

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anarchy2 (anarchy2.mod)
anarchy2 (anarchy-2.mod)

anarchy-2.mod does not have that rip mention

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=33542
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=86350

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r1a (awesom.mod)
R1a (awesome_ingame_1.mod)

awesome_ingame_1.mod does not have that rip mention

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=34394
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=121408

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g1a (g1a.mod)
G1a (awesome_gameover_music.mod)

awesome_gameover_music.mod does not have that rip mention

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=80153
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=120954

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industry (INDUST.MOD)
industry (deathjester_-_industry.mod)

deathjester_-_industry.mod does not have that BBS mention

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=44381
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=172517

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deep stream (deep_stream.mod)
einstein-b1.remix (einstein-b1_remix.mod)

both have a rip notice so pick your poison I guess, though I do not know where the "deep stream" title comes from and it is titled einstein-b1.remix here http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/release.php?id=32687

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=66051
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=91355

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kill for exxezz (reactor_one_-_kill_for_exxezz.mod)
kill for exxezz (kill_for_exxezz.mod)

reactor_one_-_kill_for_exxezz.mod has a composer mention. I do not know if it was edited in or not

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=165601
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=78556

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West End Girls (pet_shop.mod)
Untitled song (untitled_song7_1.mod)

pet_shop.mod removes an unused instrument, is named etc. but has a bbs notice, again I do not even know if these were edited in/out by someone else (besides the BBS notice obviously)

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=54495
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=75884

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hemisphere1-2.41 (hemisphere_1-2-41.mod)
hemisphere1----2.41 (hemisphr.mod)
hemisphere1-v2.41 (hemisphere1-v2_41.mod)
hemisphere1----2.41 (hemisphere1----2_41.mod)

hemisphere_1-2-41.mod is the original also hemisphere1----2_41.mod is corrupted haha

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=121395
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=45435
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=66062
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=80160
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on February 19, 2022, 22:48:52
All done, except for...
Quote
hemisphere_1-2-41.mod is the original
Are you sure? Unlike the other files it's a StarTrekker module (FLT4 instead of M.K. magic bytes). Of course it could really have been written in StarTrekker, or some StarTrekker user resaved the file in that tracker for whatever reason.

Edit: Still merged since the FLT4 version appeared to be the best.

Quote
pet_shop.mod removes an unused instrument, is named etc. but has a bbs notice, again I do not even know if these were edited in/out by someone else (besides the BBS notice obviously)
All of that looks like it's the work of whoever spread the file through that BBS. Before uploading the file to their BBS, they would make sure it's named properly, and remove unused stuff to save space and speed up upload/download times.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: yeah on February 21, 2022, 23:12:42
mod.hypernotic (hypernotic.mod)
mod.hypernotic (hypernot.mod)

hypernotic.mod does not have a BBS mention and has an unused instrument hypernot.mod does not have

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=47349
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=99687

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crystalhammer (crystalhammer.mod)
crystalhammer (CRYSTALH.MOD)

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=104882
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=34651

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ball.main (megaball.mod)
ball.main (ballmain.mod)

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=50258
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=35082

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high.ball (high_ball.mod)
MegaBall 1 (megball1.mod)
 .ball (ball2.mod)

high.ball is the original track name

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=76575
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=50367
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=35049

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ball_2 (ball_2.mod)
 2.ball (ball3.mod)
dead2.ball (dead2_ball.mod)
MegaBall 2 (megball2.mod)

dead2.ball is the original track name

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=76443
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=35051
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=76364
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=50370

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bagels.ball (bagels_ball.mod)
 ls.ball (ball4.mod)
MegaBall 3 (megball3.mod)

bagels.ball is the original track name

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=76409
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=35053
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=50373

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 7 (ball_4.mod)
MegaBall 4 (megball4.mod)
nts.7 (nts_7.mod)

nts.7 is the original track name

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=35058
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=50376
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=78209

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pinball-stage-1 (level1-842.mod)
pinball-stage-1 (level1.mod)

level1-842.mod removes a bunch of unused samples. definitely the least original

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=168533
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=47875

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pinball-stage-2 (level2-413.mod)
pinball-stage-2 (level2.mod)

level2-413.mod removes a bunch of unused samples. definitely the least original

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=168534
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=47878

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pinball-stage-3 (level3-1656.mod)
pinball-stage-3 (level3.mod)

level3-1656.mod removes a bunch of unused samples. definitely the least original

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=168535
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=47879

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pinball-stage-4 (level4-588.mod)
pinball-stage-4 (level4.mod)

level4-588.mod removes a bunch of unused samples. definitely the least original

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=168547
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=47881
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on February 22, 2022, 21:52:31
All merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: yeah on February 23, 2022, 14:42:13
tried to crack down (get it i am so hilarious) on random modules with erasure of their original name or composer

Buffered Module (world_charts_9-4.mod)
intro number 64 (intro_number_64.mod)

intro_number_64.mod is the most original

https://modarchive.org/module.php?66679
https://modarchive.org/module.php?123842

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Buffered Module (world_charts_9-2.mod)
Intro number 61 (intro-61.mod)
intro number 61 (intro_number_61.mod)

intro_number_61.mod is the most original

https://modarchive.org/module.php?66686
https://modarchive.org/module.php?66729
https://modarchive.org/module.php?123839

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Buffered Module (world_charts_9-3.mod)
intro number 63 (intro_number_63.mod)

intro_number_63.mod is the most original

https://modarchive.org/module.php?66683
https://modarchive.org/module.php?123841

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IntroMusic3 (intromusic3.mod)
intromusic3 (intromc3.mod)
intro music 3 (dr_awesome-intro_music3.mod)

https://modarchive.org/module.php?90672
https://modarchive.org/module.php?46218
https://modarchive.org/module.php?67475

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Life's Run - Teo/Fatal Rage (fr-lfrn.s3m)
e-91347 (e-91347.s3m)

fr-lfrn.s3m is the most original (i'm aware the other comes from a music contest so they emptied all the data and technically they are both original but it's probably better to keep the one released by the composer)

https://modarchive.org/module.php?43381
https://modarchive.org/module.php?71123

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GtS-BrainDamage3.ex (miss_ya.mod)
<unnamed> (i_miss_ya.mod)

i_miss_ya.mod is the most original

https://modarchive.org/module.php?98339
https://modarchive.org/module.php?126525

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GtS-BrainDamage3.ex (ts-intro_music-0001.mod)
ts-intro music 0001 (ts-intro_music_0001.mod)
ts-intro music 0001 (tsim0001.mod)

tsim0001.mod is the most original

https://modarchive.org/module.php?79636
https://modarchive.org/module.php?132462
https://modarchive.org/module.php?132464

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Intro.exe (intro_exe.mod)
disc_10_intro (disc_10_intro.mod)

disc_10_intro.mod is the most original

https://modarchive.org/module.php?82717
https://modarchive.org/module.php?78849

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BD2.exe (jamdough.mod)
jam doughnut (jam_doughnut.mod)

jam_doughnut.mod is the most original

https://modarchive.org/module.php?188812
https://modarchive.org/module.php?124886

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antipasti#38 (antipasti38.mod)
antipasti#38 (antipasti_38.mod)

antipasti38.mod is the most original

https://modarchive.org/module.php?76748
https://modarchive.org/module.php?188409

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intro number 62 (intro_number_62.mod)
intro number 62 (intro-62.mod)

https://modarchive.org/module.php?123840
https://modarchive.org/module.php?66728
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on February 26, 2022, 22:01:17
All merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: yeah on February 27, 2022, 14:26:23
intro number 66 (wotw-intro66.mod)
intro number 66 (intro_number_66.mod)

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=66643
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=123844

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westindies1 (o2lwestindies1.mod)
Out To Lunch 01 (out_to_lunch_01.mod)

westindies1 is the original track name

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=49943
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=128988

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swiss1 (o2lswiss1.mod)
Out To Lunch 02 (out_to_lunch_02.mod)

swiss1 is the original track name

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=49939
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=128989

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greece1 (o2lgreece1.mod)
Out To Lunch 04 (out_to_lunch_04.mod)

greece1 is the original track name

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=49936
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=128991

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westindies2 (o2lwestindies2.mod)
Out To Lunch 05 (out_to_lunch_05.mod)

westindies2 is the original track name

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=49946
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=128992

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china1 (o2lchina1.mod)
Out To Lunch 06 (out_to_lunch_06.mod)

china1 is the original track name

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=49925
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=128993

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china2 (o2lchina2.mod)
Out To Lunch 07 (out_to_lunch_07.mod)

china2 is the original track name

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=49928
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=128994

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france1 (o2lfrance1.mod)
Out To Lunch 08 (out_to_lunch_08.mod)

france1 is the original track name

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=49932
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=128995

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france2 (o2lfrance2.mod)
Out To Lunch 09 (out_to_lunch_09.mod)

france2 is the original track name

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=49935
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=128996

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mexico1 (mexico1.mod)
Out To Lunch 10 (out_to_lunch_10.mod)

mexico1 is the original track name

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=128005
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=128997

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mexico2 (mexico2.mod)
Out To Lunch 11 (out_to_lunch_11.mod)

mexico2 is the original track name

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=128006
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=128998

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completionv2 (o2lcompletionv2.mod)
out To Lunch 13 (out_to_lunch_13.mod)

completionv2 is the original track name

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=49931
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=128999

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Megaforce Theme (megforce.mod)
megaforce (megafor.mod)
megaforce02 (mfc2.mod)
megaforce02 (megaforce02.mod)

megaforce02.mod is the most original plus megforce.mod is corrupted (13th instrument is cut off) and megafor.mod replaces the 11th instrument for some reason

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=50380
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=50277
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=51113
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=106308
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on February 27, 2022, 15:22:50
All merged. I did go for the "Out To Lunch xx" versions though, as those are also what is on TDK's AMP profile.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: yeah on February 27, 2022, 16:30:31
I did go for the "Out To Lunch xx" versions though, as those are also what is on TDK's AMP profile.
I see. That's understandable, thanks for checking.

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drum03 (karsten_obarski_-_drum03.mod)
drum03 (drum03.mod)
drum03 (luxor_-_drum03.mod)

Okay, this one is really confusing but I promise they are the same, besides the mixing, luxor_-_drum03.mod being corrupted and the 3rd instrument being different. According to http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/release.php?id=33915, Karsten Obarski composed this song with Frog, but Frog isn't Luxor and the file on that site is identical to drum03.mod.

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=161667
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=40920
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=159459

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angie s. (angie_s.mod)
angie-s (angie-s.mod)
angie s. (angie.mod)
angie s. (music-steve_-_angie_s.mod)

This one's also a confusing one, according to http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/release.php?id=31760, the composer is Frog, not "romeo knight" or even "music-steve".

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=77319
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=114891
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=33615
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=161904

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demons soundtrack (demons_soundtrack.mod)
demons soundtrack (demons.mod)
demons soundtrack (demonsou.mod)

demons_soundtrack.mod is corrupted (instrument 10). see http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/release.php?id=31759

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=79698
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=37467
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=184560

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FlightToSweden (flswede.mod)
flight to sweden (flight_to_sweden.mod)

flight_to_sweden.mod appears to be the most original. see http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/release.php?id=33876

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=42696
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=96461

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o_du_froehliche (oh_du_froehliche.mod)
o du froehliche (o_du_froehliche.mod)
christmas (tbb_-_christmas.mod)

Clueless on that one, the two last modules indicates the two credited composer are both part of "Style", so maybe both of them credit the composer correctly, just one of them uses an older pseudonym...

https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=78614
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=91344
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=166743
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on February 27, 2022, 19:26:51
All done except for the last one, I will ask other people for help to identify the real author.
Edit: Got confirmation that it's by TBB. A clean version will be uploaded to replace all three of them. Same for Flight To Sweden.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: yeah on March 02, 2022, 15:06:06
sll2 (sll2.mod)
sll2 (stksll2.mod)
sll2 (sll2_semiborken.mod)

sll2.mod and sll2_semiborken.mod are corrupted

https://modarchive.org/module.php?57465
https://modarchive.org/module.php?172946
https://modarchive.org/module.php?172947

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garbage collection (garbage_collection.mod)
garbage collection (garbage.mod)

https://modarchive.org/module.php?116301
https://modarchive.org/module.php?42919

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demo music 4 (demo_music_4.mod)
demo music 4 (demomusi.mod)

demo_music_4.mod has additional internal text and a pattern 0 at the very end, it was apparently originally here but i dont know how reliable it is in this case; http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/release.php?id=36137

https://modarchive.org/module.php?37446
https://modarchive.org/module.php?124069

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little china (litchina.mod)
little china (little_china.mod)

little_china.mod has a rip mention but the filesize is noticeably different and I don't know why

https://modarchive.org/module.php?48226
https://modarchive.org/module.php?118639

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intro 9 (intro_9.mod)
intro 9 (supplex3a.mod)

supplex3a.mod is not the original filename, apparently "supplex" was the name of a group that used this module for some demo or intro or similiar (https://amigamusic.tripod.com/sw.html)

https://modarchive.org/module.php?122577
https://modarchive.org/module.php?131324

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intronumber 81 (intro-81.mod)
intro number 81 (intro_number_81.mod)

intro-81.mod is the least original because of its title, it was not oddly named or whatever; http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/release.php?id=46198

https://modarchive.org/module.php?66720
https://modarchive.org/module.php?124506

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cousinssong01 (cousins.mod)
cousinssong01 (cousinssong01.mod)
cousinssong01 (luxor_-_cousinssong01.mod)
mfc_cousinsong (megaforce-cousin_song.mod)

Another odd one, the mixing in cousinssong01.mod is different than the other ones, mfc_cousinsong is definitely not the original because of its title and the instrument text of the original STK file matches cousins.mod's

https://modarchive.org/module.php?77692
https://modarchive.org/module.php?77693
https://modarchive.org/module.php?159535
https://modarchive.org/module.php?79477

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hymn to aurora (hymn_to_aurora.mod)
hymn to aurora (aurora-.mod)
aurora (aurora.mod)

aurora.mod isn't the original (title) and the instrument text in hymn_to_aurora.mod matches the one from its original source; http://janeway.exotica.org.uk/release.php?id=36469

https://modarchive.org/module.php?99684
https://modarchive.org/module.php?34272
https://modarchive.org/module.php?34274
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Shaduck on March 11, 2022, 19:22:59
Duplicate modules:

https://modarchive.org/module.php?40975
https://modarchive.org/module.php?72528

Same lenght and same info text, but the file names are different and the size of the newer one is smaller.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Saga Musix on March 13, 2022, 22:45:07
All merged.
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: yeah on April 03, 2022, 13:36:42
sad-song (sadsong.mod)
sad-song (sad-song.mod)

sadsong.mod appears to be the most original (no corrupted sample name)

https://modarchive.org/module.php?54928
https://modarchive.org/module.php?54842

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amigoesheavy (amigoesheavy.mod)
 amiga goes heavy (amigagoe.mod)

amigoesheavy.mod appears to be the most original (no composer mention, seems to be the case for the rest of author's modules)

https://modarchive.org/module.php?105134
https://modarchive.org/module.php?33457

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dragon jive (dragon_jive.mod)
dragon jive (dragjive.mod)
dragon jive (dragonji.mod)
dragon jive (dragonjv.mod)

dragonji.mod appears to be the most original (no corrupted sample names & no ripper notice)

https://modarchive.org/module.php?114530
https://modarchive.org/module.php?40292
https://modarchive.org/module.php?40316
https://modarchive.org/module.php?40318

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## economy 18 ## (econmy18.mod)
## economy 18 ## (_economy_18_.mod)

econmy18.mod appears to be the most original (no rip mention, original instrument placement)

https://modarchive.org/module.php?40883
https://modarchive.org/module.php?121124

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Woodstock-DRD.exe (woodstoc.mod)
woodstock.mod (woodstock.mod)

woodstock.mod appears to be the most original (title)

https://modarchive.org/module.php?63571
https://modarchive.org/module.php?75544

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UnderTheSea (UNDERSEA.XM)
UnderTheSea (under_the_sea.xm)

Those two are veeery slightly different, notice the note effects at the beggining of each of the modules.

https://modarchive.org/module.php?58045
https://modarchive.org/module.php?135786

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title.np (title_np.mod)
bubba'n'stix title (bubbanstix_title.mod)

technically neither of them are original (https://www.exotica.org.uk/wiki/Bubba%20'n'%20Stix) so keeping the one without any rip notice would be better? I don't know

https://modarchive.org/module.php?79234
https://modarchive.org/module.php?123644

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saturday morning (satmorn.mod)
saturday morning (vyrzel_-_saturday_morning.mod)

vyrzel_-_saturday_morning.mod is the most original (no bbs mention)

https://modarchive.org/module.php?55281
https://modarchive.org/module.php?167615

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power guardian (power_guardian.mod)
power guardian (power_guardian_fixed.mod)
power guardian (powrgrdn.mod)

powrgrdn.mod the least original. the only difference with power_guardian.mod and power_guardian_fixed.mod is the row jump in the pattern 14, the fixed version removes an unenjoyable mistake, though it's less authentic

https://modarchive.org/module.php?117330
https://modarchive.org/module.php?179521
https://modarchive.org/module.php?56250

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7-inside.exe (7-inside.xm)
stay happy (stay_happy.mod)

7-inside.xm is a conversion from .mod to .xm, so the least original

https://modarchive.org/module.php?196393
https://modarchive.org/module.php?114917
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: sonder on May 09, 2022, 16:54:21
Helmet Shake, by Jogeir Liljedahl:



helmet_shake.mod is attributed to the correct registered artist (jogeir-liljedahl (https://modarchive.org/member.php?69569)), and the internal texts contain the oldest copyright notice.

helmet-shake.mod and helmshke.mod are the same size, and their internal texts contain an identical rip notice.  The rip notice attributes the track to "Jogeir/Spaceballs".

The ripped text matches what I recall when I encountered the track some time between 1996–1998.   I believe it was used as the pack-in "demo" .mod for one of the DOS/Windows trackers, but  I don't recall which one (would have guessed ModPlug Tracker, but seems a little early).
Title: Re: duplicate modules
Post by: Songerson on June 28, 2022, 21:25:19
1.1. ba1-rsi (ba1-rsi.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?34820

1.2. ba1 (ba1.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?86357

1st module contains rip notice.

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2.1. chubby-chip-chip (chubby1.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?37132

2.2. chubby-chip-chip (chubb1-1.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?67101

2nd module is assigned to the artist, 1st is not.

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3.1. chubby-chip-chip2 (chubby1b.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?37135

3.2. chubby-chip-chip2 (chubby-chip-chip2.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?120933

2nd module is assigned to the artist, 1st is not.

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4.1. sinking2 (sinking2.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?57304

4.2. sinking ii (sinkingi.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?57305

2nd module has rearranged patterns, slightly modified patterns 19 and 43, and a notice about third party modification.

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5.1. v42 (V42.MOD)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?58952

5.2. vortex 42 (vortexx.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?60860

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6.1. promenade II (promenade_ii.xm)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?138916

6.2. promenade II (chromag_-_promenade_ii.xm)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?160604

1st module is assigned to the artist, 2nd is not.

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7.1. after-the-rain (aftrain.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?33020

7.2. after-the-rain (afterthe.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?33018

7.3. after-the-rain (after-the-rain.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?122449

2nd module contains BBS notice.

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8.1. moby.Fury-Desert (f-desert.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?40808

8.2. fury.desert (fury_desert.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?188761

1st module is assigned to the artist, 2nd is not.

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9.1. kaosmodule (kaos.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?47477

9.2. kaosmodule (kaosmodule.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?66077

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10.1. chip or not? (chip_or_not.xm)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?139343

10.2. chip or not? (kenet-10k_ltp3.xm)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?68059

Not sure if this pair of modules can be considered a duplicate, because the 1st module is above 10 kilobytes (11.21 KB), while the 2nd is below 10 kilobytes (9.19 KB), what is stated in the filename of the 2nd module. It seems to me that the 2nd module participated in a compo, while the 1st module is a post-compo edition.

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11.1. Charella - By M¡G / WM (charella.s3m)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?36251

11.2. Charella - By M¡G / (charella_-_by_m-g.xm)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?144582

As with the previous pair, I am not sure, this time because of the different formats. But at first sight it seems that the 2nd module is an XM conversion of the 1st module, because the title and lines of instrument text in the 2nd module are truncated.

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12.1. poormouth (poormout.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?55903

12.2. Poor_Mouth (poor_mou.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?55900

2nd module is assigned to the artist, 1st is not.

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13.1. mega 91 (mega91.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?50250

13.2. razor-1911 (razor.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?54094

13.3. razor-1911 (razor191.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?54104

13.4. mega mix '88 (megamx88.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?50335

13.5. razor-1911 (razor-1911_1.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?77534

13.6. mega mix '88 (mega_mix_88.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?127904

1st module is different from the other five: four samples are replaced, sample volumes are different, patterns on positions 26 and 27 of the order list are different, pattern 21 has been redacted. But the melody is basically the same.
2nd module has wrong portamento commands in patterns 1 and 2.
3rd module sounds fine, but samples 4, 5 and 6 are slightly different from those in 4th and 6th modules.
4th module sounds fine.
5th module has wrong portamento commands in patterns 1 and 2, plus a pattern on position 26 of the order list is wrong.
6th module sounds fine, but contains rip notice.

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14.1. chip-4mat1 (chip-4mat1.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?79540

14.2. chip-4mat1 (chip4mat.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?66459

1st module is assigned to the artist, 2nd is not.

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15.1. SC2 Umgah Theme (umgah.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?58594

15.2. Umgah Theme (umgah_theme.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?110882

2nd module is assigned to the artist, 1st is not.

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16.1. sky.iamback (enemies.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?42086

16.2. sky.iamback (sky_iamback.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?130623

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17.1. sky.iambackagain (iamback.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?44597

17.2. sky.iambackagain (sky_iambackagain.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?130624

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18.1. make your move (makemove.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?49200

18.2. make your move (make_your_move.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?90693

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19.1. action-1(s1) (action.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?32868

19.2. action-1(s1) (action1.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?32871

19.3. action-1(s1) (action-1s1.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?102188

3rd module is assigned to the artist, 1st and 2nd are not.

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20.1. song1 (song1_fi.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?57779

20.2. song1 (alain_lambin_-_song1.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?157763

1st module is a wrong (corrupted) version of the 2nd.

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21.1. jingle bells2 (jingle2.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?45788

21.2. jingle bells2 (maktone_-_jingle_bells2.mod)
https://modarchive.org/module.php?196188

1st module is already assigned to the artist. Patterns 1 and 2 are different in the 2nd module.