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Need Help (Newbie)
« on: May 22, 2012, 18:57:14 »

I have been going through many tracks to learn some nice techniques and in a song mind validator by filip skutela, you can here it from scenemusic.net and download there. He has used several samples in 1 instrument and i don't understand how he has mapped the various samples to different notes and also why, doesn't it give some limitations also i think he did to save space, am I right? If you put many samples in one instrument how does it help? Also he makes really complicated songs and I think I've missed a lot and haven't understood much yet about tracking so if you could point me in the right direction it would be great  ;D Also why does he keep changing tick rate/bpm/adding delay? - Does it make the file smaller with less and smaller patterns? And 1 last question in the song forgotten city also by filip there is a part in the 12th pattern 4th channel where  there are no instruments but still some swanky  8) dj like sound plays how?

If you could also share some cool techniques with me it will be much appreciated  :)

THANKS!

Link to mind validator : http://www.scenemusic.net/demovibes/song/27275/
Link to forgotten city  : http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=165767
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Re: Need Help (Newbie)
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2012, 13:15:14 »

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He has used several samples in 1 instrument and i don't understand how he has mapped the various samples to different notes and also why, doesn't it give some limitations also i think he did to save space, am I right?
How? Read the manual of your tracker.
Why? Because obviously every instrument header less in the file saves space (230 bytes to precise, which is quite a lot for small chiptunes).

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I think I've missed a lot and haven't understood much yet about tracking so if you could point me in the right direction it would be great
Practice, practice, practice, and look at how other people do it.

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You don't need an instrument number to trigger a sample, only a note. If there is only a note and no instrument number, the previously triggered instrument is used.
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Re: Need Help (Newbie)
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2012, 08:40:37 »

Thanks a lot for your reply Saga Musix!

I think I will go read the tracker manual fully now :)

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Re: Need Help (Newbie)
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2012, 23:56:56 »

Many samples in one instrument to make it sound better. Dark piano sounds can sound bad on high notes for example then you make so that they automatically play other (brighter) piano samples as you go. I know how to map like that in OpenMPT but not in Schismtracker.
Anyway listen to how you want things to sound then try to make it like that using all the available effects etc. then you'll find out techniques!
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Re: Need Help (Newbie)
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2012, 17:27:48 »

Many samples in one instrument to make it sound better. Dark piano sounds can sound bad on high notes for example then you make so that they automatically play other (brighter) piano samples as you go. I know how to map like that in OpenMPT but not in Schismtracker.
Anyway listen to how you want things to sound then try to make it like that using all the available effects etc. then you'll find out techniques!

Right--multiple samples in one instrument allows the instrument to "track" better over a larger range.  Take a sample, any sample, and then play a really low or really high note.  It'll start doing strange things, playing really long or really short, and sounding unnatural.  So, if, for example, you want a decent piano sound, you would take multiple samples of the piano at different octaves, and then associate each one of them to the appropriate range in your tracker instrument.  The result will be a more natural sounding piano, even if you play really low or high notes on it.

Of course, sometimes you want a really weird or unnatural sound, but that's another issue.
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