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Axxy:
Why would anyone have uploaded their music to the archive, if 15 or 20 years later, you wanted it removed? Perhaps, you could threaten everyone that downloaded the module with a lawsuit too!  It's been out there for 15 years...


--- Quote ---I definitely will do so if I ever come up with something worth sharing.
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Why would you upload it?  The demoscene and the trackerscene have always been based on sharing, for free, I've never heard of anyone trying to make some money out of it. The artist still owns the copyright afaik....


--- Quote ---Everyone starts out small at some point. An artist who makes it big was once an amateur, and many artists wouldn't want to sully their reputation by associating their name with a crappy song that they made years ago.
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I suggest you take a look around various former tracker musicians websites, who have made music their professional careers.  Some actually link AMP, TMA, Modland on their sites for those people who still like nostalgia and their old releases. A lot of musicians state they have a background in the demoscene, as that's where they started...

Tbh, if an artist becomes that famous, why would they care about something they did a couple of decades ago.  Modules is very niche, compared to modern standards that is. I would only see an issue if someone tried passing their work off as their own or trying to make money out of their efforts.

Saga Musix:
For what it's worth, ModArchive's module deletion policy is pretty much in line with at least two other big demoscene archives, namely ModLand and scene.org.

Too much damage has been (tried to be) done to those archives in the past to simply allow artists to delete their works whenever they feel like it.

ncovert:
I can understand you not wanting to delete famous or well-known modules (could you just imagine how sad it would be to not have the works of Purple Motion, Elwood, etc.?) but in this case we're discussing two modules that are not historical or noteworthy. I fail to see what kind of harm would be done by deleting the works I regret uploading. Sure you can apply the slippery-slope argument and say "then everyone would be deleting modules and soon the archive would be deserted" but in all honesty I doubt that would happen, as a good chunk of the modules on the archive have no assigned author, or were made by somebody who isn't involved in the tracking community anymore (take Elwood, for example; he released 15 modules in the mid-90s and vanished afterwards), or they're modules that are actually good and the creators are proud to display them on the archive. People like me who end up rightfully regretting their creations are the minority.

fuzion_mixer:

--- Quote ---The Mod Archive aims to be a complete archive of good quality sequenced computer music, both historic and contemporary, with the purpose of documenting and preserving what would otherwise risk being lost and forgotten.
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Note: complete archive of good quality sequenced computer music.


--- Quote ---...but in this case we're discussing two modules that are not historical or noteworthy. I fail to see what kind of harm would be done by deleting the works I regret uploading.
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It's quality differs from person to person...you can't just say its insignificance historical-wise because it's, after all, your opinion. While it won't affect you, those who gain inspiration from that "lesser" module will feel deeply saddened by that, knowing that that module that they consider as "good quality" suddenly disappeared. And if the kind of policy you want really got implemented, I'm sure listeners would upload artists' now-unwanted content back into the archive, and that would create a vicious cycle of uploading and taking down of modules, schism within the TMA community and rampant module uploads (of which many are unnecessary and could have been avoided by the current policy as is).

ncovert:

--- Quote ---you can't just say its insignificance historical-wise
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If my modules were significant in some manner, I'm sure they would have many more downloads, favorites, and ratings than they do now.


--- Quote ---those who gain inspiration from that "lesser" module will feel deeply saddened by that
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They'll probably only return to the mod's download link to leave a rating, and even the likelihood of that happening is pretty slim. A simple message that says "This module has been removed by the author" would suffice if they try to access the link.


--- Quote ---I'm sure listeners would upload artists' now-unwanted content back into the archive, and that would create a vicious cycle of uploading and taking down of modules
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TMA's staff check all modules to ensure that they're high-quality, and to prevent duplicate modules from surfacing. Would it be that much harder to also have them check and make sure that someone isn't reuploading a module that the original creator took down?

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