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[raina]

Aren't both of them based on OpenMPT?

[dysamoria]

http://eval.sovietrussia.org/wiki/Schism_Tracker
"The player is based on a highly modified version of the Modplug  engine, with a number of bugfixes and changes to improve IT playback."

can't find info about BeRoTracker... it runs on my machine only in "Compatible mode" with terrible GUI responsiveness but audio seems fine (my video card is an old Matrox G400 and OpenGL/Direct3D seems unavailable, and the program renders to screen via OpenGL).

[Saga Musix]

BeRo is not based on any other tracker. Schism was based on libmodplug, yes, but that is besides the point: Since the .IT format can handle stereo samples, Schism naturally has support for stereo samples - so XM stereo samples are also loaded. Mind you, the Schism loaders have been completely rewritten and do not resemble the old libmodplug loaders anymore.

[pailes]

not true? ok, excellent. can you let me know which other trackers/players recognize the MPT modified XM/IT format (aside from MP Player)?

MilkyTracker reads them, but it converts the stereo samples into mono ones, heh

As discussed many times already it has been a stupid idea to "extend" the format in a way that they're no longer backwards compatible and they cannot even be loaded with FT2 anymore. But the same holds true for more than 32 channels and similar things.

But that's just the way it is now...

[Saga Musix]

Well, I do not say that it is a great thing Olivier has done there, but that's indeed how the situation is and OpenMPT is actually capable of removing all "extensions" automatically.

[pailes]

BeRo is not based on any other tracker. Schism was based on libmodplug, yes, but that is besides the point: Since the .IT format can handle stereo samples, Schism naturally has support for stereo samples - so XM stereo samples are also loaded. Mind you, the Schism loaders have been completely rewritten and do not resemble the old libmodplug loaders anymore.

The point is, the IT format is neither a complete XM superset nor is Schism meant to correctly play XM modules. So yes, you will gain the possibility to load and play stereo samples and at the same time you will lose true XM effect compatibility.

And another point is that nobody will actually use BeroTracker or Schism to play XM songs that's pretty obvious.

[pailes]

...and OpenMPT is actually capable of removing all "extensions" automatically.

That's nice, but how does it improve the format mess MPT left behind?

[Saga Musix]

Not at all, but it should keep people from producing even more mess.