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[Saga Musix]

the wikimedia tool is user-unfriendly non-WYSIWYG overwrought hackerish crap.

As this is quite off-topic, I will also give an off-topic answer: I like MediaWiki. Exactly for that reason. Because I hate WYSIWYG-Editors. The formatting might seem a bit weird at first, but once you've got the hang of it, it's pretty fast. Of course this is totally user-unfriendly if you consider all those noobs that can only create text using shiny buttons, but then again, you should know this from somewhere else... you are a tracker guy, aren't you? *hint, hint*

[dysamoria]

you have a valid point: yeah, you're right i'm a tracker guy.

 but honestly, i've grown tired of geeking *everything.*

 i'll deal with the important things (music tools) as needed (or not use them) and they ARE built around a legacy concept to begin with, which i grew WITH (not forced to learn suddenly upon its appearance in, say 2005 or whatever - i've been with trackers since Norman Lin's MOD Edit 2.0 DOS tracker... what a horror that was! hah hah).

MediaWiki isn't one of those "i grew with it" tools. it's new. it's not HTML. it's not straight forward. it is its own new and arbitrary concept (i'm not a unix guy, so if there's any legacy support of formatting commands from the evil vi or whatever, i'm unaware and still disinterested).

as for "noobs..." i have long ago abandoned the elitism of "user" vs "tech" because it's ridiculous to maintain that attitude when computers have been marketed at general population (not techs and geeks) for decades now. i stopped a career as a tech support person because i was sick of the elite attitude of my co-workers. they were terribly insulting to any non-computer-expert and it was not right. their very purpose was to HELP these people, not insult them the second they're out of earshot. the clients asking for help weren't idiots. many had PhDs and Masters degrees in all kinds of things. it wasn't appropriate to be experts in *everything* including fringe technical concepts (most of which came out of legacy and defective software behavior that we had to help them work around)... and they were introduced to computers as being user-friendly tools to get work done easier (which still is largely not the reality - i grew up loving computers but i despise them now; it's a specialty of mine & i have a huge investment in using them as my "preferred tools" but i DO hate the lack of completeness in the industry - it's infantile compared to most other industries but pretends to be so wonderful).

i wont keep this topic going bc ur right it's way off topic. i just wanted to share my opinions/frustrations with the original topic.

[dysamoria]

I thought the MilkyTracker article was excellent. I was really proud of the work that I and the cloud of contributers put together. I felt like someone vandalized and destroyed a treasured object when that gang of ignorant thugs deleted it.

you are RIGHT and justified to feel that way. that's why i ranted. i know the feeling too well. you put out a very serious piece of effort to contribute to both the Tracker AND WikiPedia communities and it was treated like ... well, like they're elite bastards and "your work counts for nothing." their behavior is just not right at all.

[dysamoria]

apparently science fiction vaporware archticture in short articles without much meaning or content is more "notable" than a real music tool that actually exists... http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimizu_Mega-City_Pyramid

i'm all for these kind of dreams but this whole topic is a perfect example of why i fundamentally hate wikipedia... tho u won't find me supporting encyclopedia dramatica either (the "revenge" wiki created by ppl who hated the arrogance of wikipedia editors).

i'll b curious to see how long the Chinese entry lasts...

[m0d]

I thought the MilkyTracker article was excellent. I was really proud of the work that I and the cloud of contributers put together. I felt like someone vandalized and destroyed a treasured object when that gang of ignorant thugs deleted it.

Do you have a backup copy of it? (I presume you wrote it then copied it over to Wikipedia?)

[DasKreestof]

I do, I've been meaning to convert it to the format used here so I could upload it. 
I'll copy and paste it below.

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{{Infobox Software
| name                   = MilkyTracker
| logo                   = [[Image:128xreflection.png|50px]]
| screenshot             = [[Image:MilkytrackerScreenshot.jpg|240px|MilkyTracker screenshot]]
| caption                = MilkyTracker screenshot
| author                 =
| developer              =
| released               =
| latest release version = v0.90.85
| latest release date    = January 1, 2010
| latest preview version =
| latest preview date    =
| programming language   =
| operating system       = [[Microsoft Windows]], [[Mac OS X]], [[Linux]], [[FreeBSD]], [[OpenBSD]], [[AmigaOS 4]] and [[PocketPC]]
| platform               =
| language               =
| status                 =
| genre                  = [[Tracker (music software)|Tracker]]
| license                = [[GNU General Public License]]
| website                = http://milkytracker.org/

}}
MilkyTracker is a [[free software]]<ref name="Create Digital Music - MilkyTracker">[http://createdigitalmusic.com/tag/milkytracker/ Create Digital Music - MilkyTracker]</ref>
<ref name="The Palm Sounds">[http://the-palm-sound.blogspot.com/2008/04/milkytracker-update.html Palm Sounds]</ref> <ref name="MilkyTracker Pan-Platform Tracker Now Open Source, with New Features">[http://msmobiles.com/news.php/7284.html MilkyTracker Pan-Platform Tracker Now Open Source, with New Features]</ref> multi-platform [[Tracker (music software)|tracker]] for composing music in the [[MOD (file format)|MOD]] and [[XM (mod format)|XM]] module file formats. <ref name="Downloads / Multimedia? Multimedia! Multimedia!">[http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fpunto-informatico.it%2F2244803_3%2FDownload%2FNews%2Fdownload-multimedia-multimedia.aspx&sl=auto&tl=en  Downloads-Multimedia? Multimedia!]</ref>

It attempts to recreate the [[Module file|module]] replay and user experience of the popular DOS program [[FastTracker 2|FastTracker]],<ref name="Thumbuki - MilkyTracker">[http://www.thumbuki.com/20080226/milky-tracker.html Thumbuki - MilkyTracker]</ref> <ref name="Netlabels - the secret Revolution">[http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gulli.com%2Fnews%2Fnetlabels-die-geheime-2006-07-07&sl=auto&tl=en Netlabels - the secret Revolution]</ref> <ref name="Mobile Music Creation using PDAs and Smartphones">[http://www.mobilemusicworkshop.org/docs/Elsdon_mmw07.pdf Mobile Music Creation using PDAs and Smartphones]</ref>
<ref name="TDT4290 at IDI/NTNU Group 2 - Norwegian University of Science and Technology">[http://www.idi.ntnu.no/emner/tdt4290/Rapporter/gruppe2-2007.pdf TDT4290 at IDI/NTNU Group 2 - Norwegian University of Science and Technology]</ref> with special playback modes available for improved Amiga [[ProTracker]] 2/3 compatibility.<ref name="About MilkyTracker">[http://milkytracker.org/?about About MilkyTracker]</ref><ref name=" Tracker Software Overview">[http://modarchive.org/index.php?article-trackers  Tracker Software Overview]</ref>

The MilkyTracker [[Module file|mod]] [[Tracker (music software)|tracker]] is notable for being supported on a wide range of platforms and is the only tracker available for the [[Windows Mobile]] platform. <ref name="Playing (and editing!) tracked (module) music on your Pocket PC">[http://www.smartphonemag.com/cms/blogs/3/1614  Playing (and editing!) tracked (module) music on your Pocket PC]</ref><ref name="MilkyTracker Pan-Platform Tracker Now Open Source, with New Features">[http://msmobiles.com/news.php/7284.html  MilkyTracker Pan-Platform Tracker Now Open Source, with New Features]</ref>



==MOD tracking==
[[Module file|MOD]] composition or "tracking" is done through the control of multichannel sample playback. An instrument is created by arranging one or more audio samples across a keyboard range. The instrument is then sequenced on a monophonic track that contains note, volume and effect data.  A pattern is a series of tracks that are played back simultaneously. A song is then created by arranging the patterns.

==MilkyTracker features==
It is able to open 30+ legacy mod formats and is able to save in .[[XM (mod format)|xm]] and .[[MOD (file format)|mod]] formats.<ref name="About MilkyTracker">[http://milkytracker.org/?about MilkyTracker Features]</ref>

Like FastTracker, MilkyTracker contains a sample editor and an instrument editor. The envelope editor of the instrument editor rivals the envelope flexibility of many hardware and software synthesizers because it allows the creation of many envelope points and user definable envelope loop points.

MilkyTracker also supports basic (velocity sensitive) note input via [[MIDI]].<ref name="Frequently Asked Questions about MilkyTracker">[http://www.milkytracker.org/docs/FAQ.html Frequently Asked Questions about MilkyTracker]</ref>

==Platform support==
The range of diverse operating systems and hardware platforms supported by MilkyTracker is unique in the realm of music software applications:

[[Microsoft Windows]]: MilkyTracker will run on Windows 9x & Me, NT, Windows 200x, XP, Vista & Windows 7.<ref name="Create Digital Music - MilkyTracker">[http://createdigitalmusic.com/tag/milkytracker/ Create Digital Music - MilkyTracker]</ref>

[[Unix-like]]: MilkyTracker is available on [[Ubuntu (operating system)|Ubuntu]], [[Arch Linux]], [[Debian]], [[Maemo]], Enlisy, [[FreeBSD]], [[OpenBSD]], [[NetBSD]], [[Gentoo Linux|Gentoo]], [[SUSE]] and [[Mac OS X]].<ref name="Create Digital Music - MilkyTracker">[http://createdigitalmusic.com/tag/milkytracker/ Create Digital Music - MilkyTracker]</ref> (Mac G3 compatible)<ref name="GNUstep Live CD 2.0 Released">[http://www.osnews.com/story/22606/GNUstep_Live_CD_2_0_Released GNUstep Live CD 2.0 Released]
</ref> <ref name="Milkytracker, return trackers">[http://www.macmusic.org/news/view.php/lang/fr/id/3917/ Milkytracker, return trackers]</ref>

[[Amiga]]: A port has been made of MilkyTracker for [[AmigaOS 4]].<ref name="Create Digital Music - MilkyTracker">[http://createdigitalmusic.com/tag/milkytracker/ Create Digital Music - MilkyTracker]</ref><ref name="YouTube - MilkyTracker on an Amiga 4000">[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN0oJFIpbys YouTube - MilkyTracker on an Amiga 4000]</ref>

[[Windows Mobile]]: MilkyTracker can be run on [[Windows Mobile]] smartphones, PDAs, [[Pocket PC]] and a VDO Dayton Car Navigation system running Windows CE 4.2.
<ref name="Platform Coverage">[http://milkytracker.org/?screenshots MilkyTracker platform coverage]</ref>

MilkyTracker can also run on the [[XBOX]] and [[GP2x]]<ref name="GP2x wiki - MilkyTracker">[http://wiki.gp2x.org/wiki/MilkyTracker GP2x wiki - MilkyTracker]</ref>.

==MilkyTracker development history==
MilkyTracker is not based on any existing module replay engine. Its core MilkyPlay has been in development since the mid-90s, originally as a Digitrakker .MDL player. MilkyTracker development started a decade later for the [[Pocket PC]] and it still fully operates on rather humble PDAs. MilkyTracker is and will stay a 2nd generation [[Tracker (music software)|tracker]]. There are no plans to add modern tracker features that would break compatibility with FastTracker.<ref name="About MilkyTracker">[http://milkytracker.org/?about About MilkyTracker]</ref>

== See also ==
* [[List of audio trackers]]
* [[:Category:Tracker musicians]]
* [[Computer game music]]
* [[Module file]]
* [[Modular software music studio]]
* [[Multitrack recording]]
*[http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_profile&query=82904/ Asian MOD music] - Containing Asian (Taiwan, Japan, Korea) XM files.

==References==
{{reflist}}

{{AmigaOS 4}}

[[Category:Audio trackers]]
[[Category:AmigaOS 4 software]]
[[Category:Pocket PC software]]

[[sv:MilkyTracker]]