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Where is this sample from?
« on: October 07, 2022, 04:41:21 »

I'm wondering about both what sample pack it is from, and also what synth it is from.
It's Sample 19 in "Point of Departure" by Necros. (NICESINE.SMP)
I have it as an attachment here.
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Re: Where is this sample from?
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2022, 18:39:18 »

Very hard to tell what could be the original source, also since the recording is very noisy. But it shouldn't be that hard to recreate - it sounds like two slightly detuned sine waves fading in and out, nothing more.
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Re: Where is this sample from?
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2022, 04:04:26 »

Unfortunately, the only musical keyboard I have is a really cheap keyboard called the "Techno-Beat" keyboard, and it isn't working properly, and my main computer (HP Compaq 8000 Elite SFF from 2009, no hardware upgrades) freezes and crashes when I try to use the web browser, and I completely ran out of hard drive space on my computer, so I don't have good enough equipment to recreate this synth sound. I'm using a Chromebook to reply, but I can't find any programs for my chromebook.
TL;DR: I don't have good equipment that I can use to recreate this synth sound.
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Re: Where is this sample from?
« Reply #3 on: October 09, 2022, 00:59:32 »

Oh! Also, it is sample 9 in Soundwave's song, "Bayshore" (linked in this post)
https://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=35468

Here, the sample name is "- ARP Patch", and the module's internal text says that it was sampled from an old analog GUS patch set.
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Re: Where is this sample from?
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2022, 19:03:44 »

No expensive equipment or lage disk space is required for this kind of stuff.

The attached sample was made with Synth1 inside OpenMPT. You probably have enough free disk space for both of those.

Part of the attachment is also a preset file containing the Synth1 patch, which can be loaded back into OpenMPT or any other VST host supporting FXP preset files.

Last but not least, I converted the sample to 8-bit mono for comparison. Before conversion I set the sample volume to 25% to emulate the distortion of the original sample, again just to make comparison easier. It doesn't sound quite identical, but this experiment is just to show that with a little bit of tinkering you can already get very close.

The sample actually sounds a bit like an FM synth, so Synth1 might not be the best candidate for emulating it. Given the sample description, one could assume that it might be sampled from an ARP Instruments synthesizer (of which none are FM sythesizers but they are indeed all analog), but without more details where the sample came from, that's just a wild guess of course. If the sample is indeed from an ARP synth, recreating it on the original synthesizer is definitely going to be an expensive ordeal ;)
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Re: Where is this sample from?
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2022, 03:43:16 »

I agree, it sounds like some sort of FM synth. Maybe some one could recreate the sound as closely as possible on their FM synth (i dont have an FM synth)
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Re: Where is this sample from?
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2022, 21:15:44 »

Quote from: haji_da_musician link=topic=4831.msg17815#msg17815 Maybe some one could recreate the sound as closely as possible on their FM synth (i dont have an FM synth)
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You could give Dexed a try, it's a free re-implementation of the Yamaha DX7.
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Re: Where is this sample from?
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2022, 07:15:21 »

Unfortunately, although I have the Dexed vst, I don't know how to use an FM synth, because I have never used one before, and I've never had time to watch a tutorial on how.
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Re: Where is this sample from?
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2022, 19:08:39 »

This is the point where in order to get something you want, you will also have to spend some of your sweat on it and not rely on other people to do a thing for you. Learning FM synthesis is easier than ever as there is a multitude of tutorials on the internet. There's also thousands of presets freely available that you can build upon and finetune to get as close to the sound you want as possible.
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Re: Where is this sample from?
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2022, 22:35:11 »

Alright! I'll look for a tutorial on FM synthesis when I have time.
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