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[the Deviant]

Sorry Rikimbo, I saw it (in a game or something, I don't recall exactly), liked it, added a little something of my own and now it's mine

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[m0d]

Has there been any more developments on this ripping case?

[Saga Musix]

at least, tempest didn't post any news at his information site for a while now...  :?

[jobro]

It's no good that people steal music MOD or not MOD, Scene or not Scene, no matter. But let's face the simple and brutal facts: Music consists of 12 notes, and all combinations has allmost been used up. I've got music stolen myself, and that's no fun.

[Eagle]

That's pretty much true, yet not. I can think of many combinations of notes that have not been tried since most people strongly prefer tonal music. But yeah, few things these days are really musically original. Although we do hear new timbres and odd sounds from time to time.

[jvk]

I listened to the Timbaland interview,

"Sampling" is VERY VERY common in all sorts of genres of music, especially hip-hop/house/soul/funk/rnb.

Check out http://www.the-breaks.com - basically it's a list of alot of popular music that has used samples from various sources.

There is nothing wrong with sampling.

The PROBLEM is, that NO CREDIT/ROYALTIES/MONEY was given to Janne (Tempest). It's fine to sample as long as you GET CONSENT FROM THE ORIGINAL ARTIST, and PAY ROYALTIES!

Timbaland's argument was that he heard something he liked and wanted to use it, but didn't know who to credit.

It's clear that he intended on using good music without having to pay royalties and hoping that no one would ever find out because the demoscene is not so "popular". Well, now it's for the courts to decide.

I have a feeling that his lawyers will be better than Janne's, though

I hope justice prevails.

JvK

[Saga Musix]

Some news...
http://www.remix64.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=4922&p=65042

{please include this warning if you copy/paste this to other forums: the below may be wrong, either in detail or in full, since I haven't seen the filing. Therefore, if anyone wants to get upset about anything... WAIT FOR THE ACTUAL FILING, and base your grievance on that! At some point I'm due to get the English translation of the filing, and then (with their permission),I'll either link to it or publish it.}

It's my understanding that the filing contests that GRG has been infringed, and that his work is sufficiently different to Tempest's as to qualify for copyright protection on its own merits. Note that I don't think this stops Tempest taking his own legal action, and it's not GRG claiming that he wrote Acidjazzed Evening: it's GRG claiming that what Timbaland stole from him was protected by copyright law by virtue of possessing creative attributes attributable to GRG himself. It's just a necessary prerequisite to establish that GRG's version was a product of skill and creativity rather than being a straight port that anyone could do, so you can then establish that it was legally possible for him to be infringed.

It's my own personal theory that Timbaland's steal had nothing to do with the original MOD, and that one of his lackeys is a SID fan, who just happened to use GRG's work. My belief is therefore that GRG's version of the track was instrumental (if you'll forgive the pun) in the composition of the piece.

Again, all disclaimers, I am not a lawyer, etc, etc, etc. Interpret with caution!

[m0d]

And now the case is at an end? According to the official news source it is

http://www.fairlight.fi/tempest/acidjazzed_evening/

[Saga Musix]

It is kinda questionable what's going on now.
As quoted in my last post, there's something going on between GRG and Timba, as his tune was obviously used, so it's possibly that there will be no case between Tempest and Timba...

[Novus]

And now the case is at an end? According to the official news source it is

http://www.fairlight.fi/tempest/acidjazzed_evening/

That could mean that a financial settlement has been reached. I don't know how it is in other countries, but in the American legal system it is fairly common for legal matters to be resolved through a financial settlement in which the defendent pays money to the plaintiff, and the plaintiff in turn agrees not to talk about the case any more.

If that's the case, it could be that Tempest got some money but isn't even allowed to say that he got any money.

It's also possible that Tempest has realized he can't win, and just wants it all to go away.

Since he's not talking, we can't be sure. But since most legal disputes in the USA end in some sort of an out-of-court financial settlement anyway, I'd guess that what probably happened is Timbaland paid out some cash just to shut Tempest up and make the story go away.

However, I am not a lawyer, and your mileage may vary.