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Re: Yet another Tracker Module Decoder - MPPWC
« Reply #30 on: June 14, 2013, 01:05:28 »

hmm - sorry - b is openMPT probably.. .) I have just heard b. Something is wrong - but I am not sure.. :) Ok - you got me! ;) This play just fine..  :D The a.zip - this should be because of ogg compression or another settings of your card what confused me ;)


SURELY B.ZIP

listen the song - it plays a note out of the rythm completely!
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Re: Yet another Tracker Module Decoder - MPPWC
« Reply #31 on: June 14, 2013, 01:12:00 »

a is AMS2WAV. You see my point? ;) The only differences I could hear are panning differences, but I cannot explain why stuff is panned differently in AMS2WAV. It just doesn't make sense from the format documentation's point of view.
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« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2013, 01:13:04 »

You are actually wrong - a is AMS2WAV. You see my point? ;)

No I don´t - AMS2WAV plays OK

B.zip - OpenMPT
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« Reply #33 on: June 14, 2013, 01:15:32 »

You see my point ;) ?

The only small part and the note is out in OpenMPT

plays well in AMS2WAV - just maybe small details - like the sound volume or what should be little different to velvet studio..

Wait - I will tell you exact second - you should then fix it ;)


5s 130ms - chinnel :) - B.zip - there is no chinnel in original! - How it is possible??
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Re: Yet another Tracker Module Decoder - MPPWC
« Reply #34 on: June 14, 2013, 01:25:03 »

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You mean the crash cymbal that's there in OpenMPT but not in AMS2WAV? That's exactly one thing that cannot be emulated in OpenMPT (or MilkyTracker, for that matter) for now: AMS has some extra loop types for samples that other formats don't have, for example "bidi loop, starting at end of sample", which essentially makes the crash cymbal play backwards instead of forwards. OpenMPT and MilkyTracker do as well as they can and simply apply a standard bidi loop, starting at the beginning of the sample.
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Re: Yet another Tracker Module Decoder - MPPWC
« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2013, 01:27:12 »

But you gave me an idea - I will convert all of them to WAV - I don´ t wanna to edit it.. Just listen using some normal player..  ;D It shouldn´t be as much work as to build correctly playing player as I see it..  :angel:
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Re: Yet another Tracker Module Decoder - MPPWC
« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2013, 01:28:48 »

You mean the crash cymbal that's there in OpenMPT but not in AMS2WAV? That's exactly one thing that cannot be emulated in OpenMPT (or MilkyTracker, for that matter) for now: AMS has some extra loop types for samples that other formats don't have, for example "bidi loop, starting at end of sample", which essentially makes the crash cymbal play backwards instead of forwards. OpenMPT and MilkyTracker do as well as they can and simply apply a standard bidi loop, starting at the beginning of the sample.

OK, if you know it - just fix it! ;) Go for it!  ;D
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« Reply #37 on: June 14, 2013, 01:33:28 »

As I already said - and what is this all about - I just want some player that is able to play it correct way - you know that OpenMPT now don´t and you exactly explained to me what is the problem - e.g. bidiloop ;) and so long..
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« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2013, 01:52:16 »

You know - I am glad you are still developing the OpenMPT. So it is a chance that one day it will play all the formats like I will not hear any difference.

The panning is not the problem - if it is a little more left then it is in the original player/tracker where it was created, nevermind of little differences - ok - nevermind if some volumes is little less or more loud - if it is not able to hear.. But when the notes plays where they should not or don´t play or plays another sound or what - it is not good, and this I think should not happen to any good player!

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Re: Yet another Tracker Module Decoder - MPPWC
« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2013, 02:06:47 »

I certainly agree that it would be a good idea to integrate this feature - it's just a matter of how this should be done. I implemented it for a quick test and it works well, but it's not editable from the GUI and such - so there is more work to be done.
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