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Sampling / Re: Help with PADSynth
« on: August 29, 2016, 20:01:44 »
the great thing about PADSynth is that it outputs samples... so you can use them in whatever you like. if using windows, I recommend the VST version used in any host you just need to get the program loaded and then you save the samples from the ZynAddSubFX interface

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MilkyTracker Feature Requests / Re: FT3????
« on: July 08, 2015, 20:52:29 »
Saga, you know better than that, if it weren't for someone picking up where someone else left off, we wouldn't even have Renoise, or how about psycle? There have been many projects where someone has given up and someone else carried the torch and did something really awesome with it. And I have Renoise, and what comes out is still an XM, so yes, it would be really nice if someone else continued on something that actually works. I've tried a lot of the newer trackers, and I mean a lot. None of them have the same feel. SunVox is personally the best that has a replay routine. Bero's tracker is another very nice one, and it has basically done that for the IT format, I'm actually going to give it a shot under wine, I recently made the switch to Linux.

Skale is def a very cool tracker, I haven't spent enough time with it though, only thing I don't like is the way the effects are input, but maybe I'm missing a concept there that makes it more streamlined. I want to get it working on ubuntu, still learning linux tho.

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I know I'm grave digging a bit here, but for making samples for Milky... Orangator is a GREAT tool!!!!!!!!!!!! Trying to recommend this synth to a FL Studio user is about impossible, but here... I might just get someone to listen. It truly is an amazing synth, I still use it, and have many others I could use. It's not the only synth I use, but for some sounds it's still my go-to. Used along side a good audio editor like Adobe Audition 3.0 (easily obtained), to just give that bit of "sheen" to the samples after they're made in Orangator, it's a formidable pair. It won't give super warm tones like some of todays analog emulations, but, it is extremely good at a lot of what I call "technical" types of sounds. For the sound the OP described (at first guess) I would go to the oscillator section and modulate the "shape" parameter.

I think it's a shame that a lot of yesterdays masterpieces are forgotten for today's mediocre works. I haven't seen a VST yet that is quite like Orangator. It's so FLEXABLE!!!!!! I have been thinking about doing a softsynth inspired by it using synthmaker. I'm using Linux now... so that might not be a possibility, but if it is then I would love to make a synth with the purpose of exporting samples for use in trackers... and I would feel like I'm giving back to a great community. I'll try to install it right now, I wish I would have saved the oscillator and envelopes I was working on before I installed Linux... but can't save everything ;p

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MilkyTracker Feature Requests / FT3????
« on: June 27, 2015, 05:30:40 »
Has there been any talk of Milky being the platform to make a FT3? I know others have tried and honestly MadTracker Came the closest, but I think MilkyTracker would be the ideal starting point for a REAL FT3... or do I have to learn to code? LOL. I wish I had the talent to code a tracker, because it would already be in the works. I've tried a LOT of trackers and Milky is by farthe most FUN to use. I recently made the switch to linux or I would be also using Bero as well, if I could have a Bero Tracker with MT's interface and sample editor(also by far the best I've used on a tracker, some DSP's and it would be AMAZING).

It's not like I want a lot... 64 tracks, NNA's, Just a couple of effects like Multimode resonant filters, Delay, Reverb, Chorus, Flanger,Phaser... just the basics, hell I could do without most of the effects, the most useful would be more tracks and filters. And yes I know about renoise.... I have the demo and it's great, but just not really what I need.

There's nothing like the feeling you get when loading up a tracker in low res screen mode :)

I'm not really demanding someone start working on milky again... rather just trying to find out if there's anyone out there talking about continuing the legacy... another part of it is that it makes me a little sad knowing that such a great and influential piece of software is long dead, but people are still heavily using it, I'd hate to see FastTracker truly die. To me it's a stroke of luck that people have done the work to bring it up to speed, working on today's computers, but yet there's no forward progress... the program will just die again eventually. I guess the real reason I still don't make the switch to other, newer, more capable trackers is after the interface issues, it's the lack of a replay routine for 9/10ths of them. There's a part of me that wants to be involved in the demoscene and small video games, so I only stick to trackers that can be used in a demo.

And now I'm rambling, if you have read all of this thanks for taking the time to read my babble :)

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Tracking / Re: Where to find plugins for BeRo?
« on: April 21, 2015, 08:38:26 »
Thanks for taking the time to consider my idea :)

I have found one thing in the tracker that I believe needs fixed; when trying to select a plugin from the right-click menu in the modular view, on my computer the list goes off of the screen no matter where I click. I feel like the menu function needs to be aware of the edge of the screen.

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Tracking / Re: Questions About Module Formats
« on: April 18, 2015, 18:21:57 »
NJ; I think this is a good time for me to chime in with a tracker I've recently discovered (well rediscovered, I never gave it a chance when I originally found it), it's called BeRo Tracker Classic, and I've posted in this forum a couple times in the past 24 hours. I was using Milky before and wanted the features of the IT format but didn't like the trackers that support that format. This one is a breeze to use and has some of the things I suspect you are looking for in a tracker. And it's free so your parents won't have to shell out a dime. Renoise is great, but if you don't need to buy it then don't. I don't need to. And as Saga pointed out the demo might have all of what you need. Before you purchase anything try out BeRo. It supports many module formats and has high quality sound and in my opinion a very good interface even if it can't be run by keyboard fully.

Also if you wish to use protracker there IS a version for windows now (in the same way that there's a version of FT2 for win through Milky) and it is a 1:1 copy. I don't recommend it though since there are plenty of trackers that can use the .MOD format, it just doesn't make sense to me to go THAT far back in tracker time... but if you strongly feel the need to I can get you a link. I would say try BeRo though if you want to use the .IT format it's working out for me SO FAR ;)

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Tracking / Re: Where to find plugins for BeRo?
« on: April 18, 2015, 16:36:20 »
Thanks for the reply and also thanks for notifying BeRo, I'm very impressed with this tracker, and I have PLENTY of VST plugs, but it seems they don't work in the sample editor and that's what I need more than anything, I don't necessarily need a tracker that can use plugins, I need one with a sample editor that can apply different effects. If I can get VST effects working in the sample editor that's just is good because I already have a set of those I've put together over time, it would be really nice to not have to switch between my tracker and my audio editor for routine tasks like spicing up whatever sample and making it fit in the mix better. That would also help keep my sample count down and not having tons of variations of the same sample, I could customize it in the tracker... yes a dream come true. I know I can do this with Renoise, I have that for doing XM, but I recently found out just how great the IT format is and BeRo Classic sure does make the format sound good ;)

I haven't been lurking around here for very long but can tell you are a pillar of the community here, I really appreciate people like you.

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Tracking / Re: Ever feel ashamed?
« on: April 18, 2015, 14:59:51 »
OK  sorry for the triple post... but really dude just because some people are confident in their music, doesn't mean it's any good. Yours might be better than you think.

Ever considered the possibility you could be using the wrong tracker? I couldn't make anything that I was happy with to save my soul using modern software. Started using trackers and it helped, but not all trackers I can use.

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Tracking / Re: Ever feel ashamed?
« on: April 18, 2015, 14:57:54 »
sorry, here's the link for synthesia... really cool piece of software, it's like guitar hero for keyboard and accepts any midi file... the internet is littered with them ;)

Anyway sorry if my advice is way off, just trying to help any way I can because I know how you feel. I was frustrated once but realized I'm doing this for fun and not having any... so I started having fun again. And it's been really good for me.


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Tracking / Re: Ever feel ashamed?
« on: April 18, 2015, 14:51:56 »
You're not the only one my friend... I hate everything I make. Not to say that it's bad, but I'm never satisfied. But the funny thing is every now and then I'll hear a tune that sounds VERY close to something I have made in the past. Makes me wish I would have held on to some of those "awful" songs.

If you want to get better, get a keyboard, that is if you're having problems with the musical aspect. Make sure it's a MIDI keyboard so you can connect it to your computer and play Synthesia. With a keyboard it is much faster, easier and more natural to explore different melodies, chords, progressions. Plus a lot of trackers accept midi, so you could even use it to make your songs.

I haven't actually made a song in a long time because I wanted to learn sound design better and then I wanted to up my theory, that's what I'm doing right now along with building a library of samples to make songwriting faster.

Hang in there and keep tracking, you'll get it. Also, maybe don't try to fit your music into one genre. When I learned to do this it got much more fun because I stopped trying to sound like X or Y. I'm not saying you're doing this I would have no way of knowing. I'm just trying to tell you things that have helped me. Like for myself, I love breakbeats. But whenever I try to make breaks that sounds like whoever I always fail. BUT when I try to just make music (and actually sit down and make some music) I am very pleased with the results.

Lastly, I have no idea if you've done this or not, but learn the basics on theory. I know it can be dull and you may just want to get on with being a superstar, but very rarely do people make good music without knowing anything in music. Not very long ago people didn't try to compose music without first playing in a band and getting to know music, but now we have computers and anyone can just sit down and bang out some sounds... whether or not those sound are music depends on how much you're willing to learn. Often I hear people say "study modules you like", well, that's great advice if you understand what's going on musically but if you don't you may just end up more confused. One tip I can give you for studying modules is use the mute function very often. Solo parts or groups of parts to see how those specific two or three or four instruments work together. It may not be so obvious when the whole thing is playing but when you hear just the string section or just the drums along with the bass you may have one of those "eureka" moments.

And most important, have fun with it. Make a completely silly song, make yourself laugh. Those will be the things that keep you tracking so that you can blow our minds sometime soon ;)

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