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Re: Babylon Project: Another person trying to sell modules commercially
« Reply #20 on: August 13, 2019, 18:03:54 »

Wow, that's completely backwards. I'd try to talk to them until they give in.
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Re: Babylon Project: Another person trying to sell modules commercially
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2019, 08:39:22 »

Wow, that's completely backwards. I'd try to talk to them until they give in.

Yeah, I sent them a response asking them to review that ridiculous stance. As the distributor of the illicit material, they're the final link in the chain and have the easiest time resolving the case.

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Re: Babylon Project: Another person trying to sell modules commercially
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2019, 13:25:39 »

Do you want us to add some power to that? I can write them as well about this.
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Re: Babylon Project: Another person trying to sell modules commercially
« Reply #23 on: August 30, 2019, 10:07:12 »

Do you want us to add some power to that? I can write them as well about this.

Apparently no amount of pressure will change their stance. I'm too busy to be sending copyright claims to youtube atm, will do it some time when feeling like it.

Funny thing with these ripped albums, none of them are making more than $5 a year anyway. Just a matter of principle to take them down.

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Re: Babylon Project: Another person trying to sell modules commercially
« Reply #24 on: August 30, 2019, 11:56:01 »

...and in the end, it could prevent you or others from spreading your own music for free because that distributor would claim that it's theirs.
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Re: Babylon Project: Another person trying to sell modules commercially
« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2019, 23:54:08 »

apparently babylon project's what happened in the forest album just got taken down from youtube so.... justice served?
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Re: Babylon Project: Another person trying to sell modules commercially
« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2020, 20:06:41 »

"a good harvest" has been found: "A Lullaby" by Beastie. https://modarchive.org/module.php?135598

also that album is resurfaced, see the 1st page for link
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Re: Babylon Project: Another person trying to sell modules commercially
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2021, 15:37:12 »

The resurfaced album is still up, but this time distributed through Routenote rather than Ditto Music. Maybe it's worth contacting Routenote about this matter. Would you be up for that, Ceekayed?
Maybe also tell them that you demand to get the full contact data of the uploader of the infringing material, saying that you consider legal actions against the uploader. If they give you that, we could figure out if it's the same guy that also uploaded my tracks.
The process was really straightforward with Feiyr, so I'm sure not all distributors are as unreasonable as Ditto. If they are, it might be worth saying that they will hear from your lawyer if they don't look into it, maybe that will get them started. :)
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Re: Babylon Project: Another person trying to sell modules commercially
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2021, 19:49:01 »

I notified Routenoute about Babylon Project and asked them to release any public information about the artist and any other information they might have on the matter (e.g. aliases).

Generally distribution services will assign ISRC and UPC codes to tracks released via them (which would also give further public info, including the name of the "composer"), but I'm coming up empty with Babylon Project. I'm also coming empty with ISWC searches for this stuff. It's like they're half smart and choosing only distribution options that do not require any identification.

In the meanwhile, can anyone identify these tracks:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m0RNiC0LJar6696H78_NgHFUdkUAIvgX4
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kn150RNLxrbG5FUPhWT5rXV77AGGQ-pu8

Edit: I just realized the mystic forest album is basically the same track all over and over again with minor instrument and progression changes. It also sounds like it's made with a more modern DAW, which makes me suspect we're not going to find the original file from tMA.
The other album also seems a bit too modern, but could very well be made with Impulse Tracker as well, but I suspect the tracks would be pretty famous and quickly identified if that was the case due the level of expertise you need to pull it off (sounds more like sample-based Renoise work due the reverbs that are no doable with oldschool trackers). Also as with mystic forest, the uniform in sound and style suggests the whole album is made by a single person (which is unlikely to be Babylon Project himself).
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Re: Babylon Project: Another person trying to sell modules commercially
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2021, 13:31:21 »

Indeed, that sounds much more uniform and high-quality. If we assume it's ripped, it could be some lesser-known videogame music. Very unlikely to be pure sample-based modules indeed.
It's interesting that this stuff only seems to be spread to YouTube and Spotify, and not other download stores.
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